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    Why? Is universal the king of all movies? All the other chains and many of the big movies studios said no and oversea chains have said no. They even said universal films will be banned in their chains if universal breaks the rules with them. So why do they have to do what universal says? Universals need the other chains on board also. Regal and the biggest uk chain said "forget it" and disney is fighting it also!



    People said this when Universal first announced they were going straight to VOD. Now look what happened. The other theaters will follow suit, they have to.
    Yes they lost over a million in trolls 2 and had to pay all the streaming apps and toy companies with streaming change they made. They did better at the drive in showings. Universals spin that it was a huge hit was debunked days after they bragged about it. They lost money on it.

    Plus if this deal did get done universal would have to pay all the streaming apps and all movie chains at the same time with the change streaming films make. Universal would not be left with much.

    They did a studio talk with all the big heads before the virus and streaming only came up. They all said they CAN'T survive on streaming. If they went to streaming only kiss big budget films and big budget animated films goodbye.

    Or they will just move all the films overseas.

    Edit--It goes like this. If universal gets what they want and it's only three weekend. Family of four. "hey look the animated mario movie out! Let's go see it." "Wait it's on on vod in three weeks. Lets just skip it and wait."

    A family of four would be four tickets. Say it's $10 then that's $40. Plus drinks and food prices.

    VOD--it's $20 only. The family of four then invite a house full to watch! That's all money per person they would have made at the box office. Plus food and drink as well.

    So that studio lost most of it's money it would have got. That room of people could have been $100 and now it's only $20. You can kiss $billion films goodbye and it would kill the movies chains.


    Could this be the future in america? Yes. But if true you may never get a endgame like movie again or they wil just release them overseas.
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    Megaplexes will never die off - because streaming will never provide these big studios with the money they need. Not unless we part ways with the big special effects blockbusters. And we won't. Only way that could conceivably be profitable is if every studio has their own streaming service - and people are already grumbling about their being too many of those now and missing the days where everything was just on one service, Netflix. I don't even know why people are trying to argue that theaters are a bad thing and the future must be that everything starts out as streaming.

    Look, if you're in America like me, we're not going to be able to go to the theater responsibly until next year probably. And some theaters and chains aren't going to survive. But it is inevitable that once we are able to do so safely people will start flocking to the theaters to see the next big MCU movie. The theater is not going to die out forever. It'll survive Corona, it will make a comeback, and ultimately isn't that a good thing?

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    Once upon a time, I had a friend tell me he would NEVER set foot in a multiplex again after the 2012 Aurora shootings which he said terrified him, and I'm sure scores of people from coast to coast felt the same way. However, a year later, that friend was back in his favorite theater when Man of Steel came out, when I reminded him of that vow he made, he just shrugged and said he changed his mind, saying he wasn't afraid anymore. Now it's impossible to compare a lone madman in one theater with a microbe that's all over the globe and shows little sign of going away, it does, in a way, demonstrate how people can overcome a tremendous fear and return to what they enjoy. I suspect that's what Hollywood is betting on, that people will inevitably return to the multiplex, what isn't known though, is just how long that will take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matthew View Post
    People said this when Universal first announced they were going straight to VOD. Now look what happened.
    My immediate reaction to "the other chains said no!"

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    The movie chains are dying for original content. They'll have to give in to the studio's proposal or risk continuing to have little content to even drive people to the theaters. Universal can wait this out longer than theates can. The chains dont really hold much power here

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    Well this is 2020. Everything turns to crap this year so you never know what's going to happen this year.

    The movie chains right now do remind me of the airports after 9/11. They said all airports will die. No one will ever fly again! It looked bad for them. Everyone said all airports will die. Theme parks also will all die. No one will ever go to a theme park again with no planes. Then months later after everything settled down they were both fine.

    People started flying again and going to parks again.

    Can the movies fly again? We don't know yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaastra View Post
    Can the movies fly again? We don't know yet.
    I think we do know, and the answer is obviously yes they will. The only reason people are questioning it now is because just like after 9/11 or the Aurora shooting and so on is that we're still in the scary part because the virus is still ongoing. We always see the future as worse or more grim when we're afraid. But the fear will go away, and people will go back to normal like they have before. But until the fear and the virus are both gone people are inevitably going to be all doom and gloom about this.

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    The more lasting and potential rival to the movie theater will still remain the home theater; the ever increasing technologies that we are provided for great viewing experiences at home. That has been the past decade and will continue to be the biggest threat, not the virus. That will eventually pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred Knight View Post
    The more lasting and potential rival to the movie theater will still remain the home theater; the ever increasing technologies that we are provided for great viewing experiences at home. That has been the past decade and will continue to be the biggest threat, not the virus. That will eventually pass.
    Exactly.

    This would be a good time for megaplexes to adapt and offer something more than just a filthy seat and AVENGERS playing on 12 screens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash Gordon View Post
    Exactly.

    This would be a good time for megaplexes to adapt and offer something more than just a filthy seat and AVENGERS playing on 12 screens.
    Like what? The only thing the chains can offer that most arent able to replicate at home is the big screen experience of being in a theater

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Like what? The only thing the chains can offer that most arent able to replicate at home is the big screen experience of being in a theater
    I don't know, honestly. I much prefer staying home and being the Captain of my own experience, but broadly speaking the "business person" move would be to try and become more attractive to audiences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Like what? The only thing the chains can offer that most arent able to replicate at home is the big screen experience of being in a theater
    I recently purchased an 8 foot by 6 foot screen. I'm a big cinephile; review movies on the side ... yadada.

    I do not miss the theater now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    I recently purchased an 8 foot by 6 foot screen. I'm a big cinephile; review movies on the side ... yadada.

    I do not miss the theater now.
    How many people can actually afford to spend the money on something like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnak View Post
    How many people can actually afford to spend the money on something like that?
    My guess? One percent...

    (Or at least feels like that from my social bracket)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash Gordon View Post

    This would be a good time for megaplexes to adapt and offer something more than just a filthy seat and AVENGERS playing on 12 screens.
    My thought was the exact opposite. People are gonna have even less incentive than they already did to go see small and mid budget movies. Huge blockbuster events may remain the draw to get people into theaters.

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