What do you expect after Death Metal?

[Superfly Frankenstein]

I know there are a lot of rumors going around. I also know this is dubbed the “Anti-Crisis”. So, what do you fans hope/think will be some of the outcomes of Death Metal?

For example:

Will Lex Luthor go back to running Lexcorp? Will he just be a mad scientist type?

Will certain things from pre-Flashpoint come back into play like Barry and Iris being married, Oliver and Dinah being married?

Will we have a set timeline that is fluid where it counts, but concrete where it matters? And if so, will it be like the 5G stuff we have heard about, or one that is more concise that lets us keep the basically known heroes without some weird time jump?

Any other thoughts?

[Restingvoice]

Baby Metal lol

I thought Death Metal is about the destruction of the earth and there are only a few heroes left? So I just assume whatever Snyder's gonna do is irrelevant to the main timeline, and they just continue where they left off before or during Metal but with some history adjustments because of the new timeline.

[Digifiend]

Probably a big white flash as things get changed by Manhattan Wally West. When everyone wakes up, Death Metal and a lot of Snyder's Justice League run will never have happened, the Source Wall won't be broken, Perpetua will be gone, Lex will be back at Lexcorp, everyone will remember Impulse and Conner Kent, any remaining retgone speedsters (Max Mercury, Jesse Quick) will be back in action, the JSA will be active again, Nightwing will be back to normal, Donna Troy's original origin will be back, Arsenal will be resurrected, and Wally will re-emerge in Central City, reunited with his family.

[CRaymond]

Metal Crisis of Infinite Death

[Vakanai]

Funeral Metal obviously. Isn't that what usually follows death?

[Vakanai]

Probably a big white flash as things get changed by Manhattan Wally West. When everyone wakes up, Death Metal and a lot of Snyder's Justice League run will never have happened, the Source Wall won't be broken, Perpetua will be gone, Lex will be back at Lexcorp, everyone will remember Impulse and Conner Kent, any remaining retgone speedsters (Max Mercury, Jesse Quick) will be back in action, the JSA will be active again, Nightwing will be back to normal, Donna Troy's original origin will be back, Arsenal will be resurrected, and Wally will re-emerge in Central City, reunited with his family.

Well somebody's a hopeful chap...

[Bored at 3:00AM]

I don't think even DC knows what comes after Death Metal at this point...

[DragonPiece]

I don't think even DC knows what comes after Death Metal at this point...

Most likely answer lol, Sndyer keeps teasing the event got bigger after Didio left for some reason so I'm guessing we can expect more tie-ins/mini series throughout the summer so DC has more time to plan the future.

[Digifiend]

Well somebody's a hopeful chap...

With what Death Metal is supposed to be about, regular continuity can't continue from there - it's post-apocalyptic. So I figured that it would end up being an exciting story, with a definitive ending, with the ending of Flash Forward being used to put back a usable continuity afterwards. Don't forget that Flash Forward's final part (Free Comic Book Day's Generation Zero: Gods Among Us) is also the first of the Generations issues that are intended to set up 5G.

[sifighter]

Stability. Whether it’s business as usual or the next exciting generation, just have stories that manage to line-up and aren’t all about continuity being wonky. It’s been fine with generations and Rebirth doing it because of all the recent reality rewriting but at some point we need a steady foundation of continuity and history. Set a history, stick to it, and then just write stories from there.

Other then that I agree with Digifiend about the JSA, Nightwing, Wally West, and Bart and Connor.

[Vakanai]

With what Death Metal is supposed to be about, regular continuity can't continue from there - it's post-apocalyptic. So I figured that it would end up being an exciting story, with a definitive ending, with the ending of Flash Forward being used to put back a usable continuity afterwards. Don't forget that Flash Forward's final part (Free Comic Book Day's Generation Zero: Gods Among Us) is also the first of the Generations issues that are intended to set up 5G.

Yeah of course they have to reboot some to have a stable continuity after the apocalypse - but that doesn't mean returning everything to the exact status quo you want. Could be another 52. Point is, it might not be a complete return to old continuity, we could get something different, especially regarding legacy characters and spin-offs and characters without a solo book. All the speedsters besides Barry, Donna's origin, Nightwing, JSA, who knows how that'll turn out.

[Noodle]

Probably a big white flash as things get changed by Manhattan Wally West. When everyone wakes up, Death Metal and a lot of Snyder's Justice League run will never have happened, the Source Wall won't be broken, Perpetua will be gone, Lex will be back at Lexcorp, everyone will remember Impulse and Conner Kent, any remaining retgone speedsters (Max Mercury, Jesse Quick) will be back in action, the JSA will be active again, Nightwing will be back to normal, Donna Troy's original origin will be back, Arsenal will be resurrected, and Wally will re-emerge in Central City, reunited with his family.

I would honestly be surprised if Wally has anything to do with this story.

Snyder is like Hickman in a way, where all of the stuff he writes is closely tied together but has little to no interaction with stuff going on outside of them. Other books can react to his story (see: Secret Wars, Year of the Villain) but the stories themselves are usually very self-contained. Snyder's yet to even address Wally to this point, so I doubt he'd bring him in now unless he's forced to by editorial.

My money is on the Wally stuff playing out once Death Metal is over with in it's own thing. The Flash Forward epilogue being the first part of the Generations series makes me think it was supposed to play out in that, otherwise the story would be been presented as a "part zero" of Death Metal.

[Restingvoice]

I think Wally will be sitting on that chair until all of the Generation one-shots completed, so five months at least.

How long is Metal? Sounds like they're gonna end at the same time?

[Vordan]

5G, in whatever form that will take now. Might end up just being a Convergence/DC One Million type of temporary status quo then the “this is the way things are from now on” status quo it was said to be.

I think Wally will be sitting on that chair until all of the Generation one-shots completed, so five months at least.

How long is Metal? Sounds like they're gonna end at the same time?

Seems like it got bigger so it could’ve gotten extended.

[Robanker]

I expect another threat to the multiverse that will encapsulate the main line of books while absolutely hijacking the tertiary titles before coalescing into a seven issue miniseries that pushes Batman as the center of creation. It'll be another year of showing how the heroes can barely contain the villains (thus being pretty bad at their job) and, with some luck, a shock value death that is sure to be undone in a few years.

Bonus points if we can speak in platitudes about how another hero is going to be integral to it but, in actuality, it's driven by the Bat books.


If I'm not being overly cynical, I expect 5G will begin in full force not long after and we'll begin to see a lot of new takes on established IP, however the format. If it does well, we'll see the first event towards the end of its first eight months. If it does poorly, six months with the highest-selling book towing the line. This sort of thing is guaranteed to bring in the speculators so I imagine the first month or two will have massively inflated sales but it'll normalize about four-to-six months in across the board (higher or lower than current remains to be seen, obviously).