Rewrite the events

[Huntsman Spider]

2099
- If it’s not broken don’t fix it. The origins established for Doom, Hulk, Ghost Rider, & Spider-Man were fine, don’t see any need to revisit them for the sake of needless retcons, rather than make unnecessary changes to fix something that wasn’t broken use what’s already been established as a jumping off point for the event.
- Use the tie-in miniseries (screw one-shots) to close out previously existing storylines Marvel wasn’t able to back in the 90’s because of the comic bust.
- Avoid rolling over any characters from the present into 2099, it’s one thing to tease Doom still being around but the whole point of this era was that everyone from the Age of Heroes is gone. Peter being mentioned by Miguel because of continuity & Conan is fine seeing as he just arrived on the Marvel landscape but otherwise nobody else. No Logan, Laura, Gabby, Daken, Wade, etc. All the Asgardians are gone and as far as everybody knows probably never existed. Apocalypse hasn’t been seen since the Age of Heroes, the Eternals, Externals, what have you all died out or left earth during some unspecified event.

- Fantastic Four 2099: result of corporate experiments on unwilling test subjects, with the Four being the first test subjects to survive the procedure without developing any significant side effects or adverse mutations. Teams powers comparable to those of the original iterations. Theme: corruption

- Venom 2099: replace Venom symbiote with suit of nanomachines; onboard AI achieved degree of sentience following exposure to virus; possibly use Endo-Syn Armor (Superior Iron Man) as template

- X-Men 2099: Would center around mutants reemerging for the first time in years as people develop a resistance to the suppressants for the X-gene. Honestly outside of maybe one or two characters I never really cared for the X-Men 2099 or their execution, felt a little too forced for my taste. With that in mind I’d probably just whip up a new batch of mutants for this or retool aspects about certain characters, yes it would require retconning a few things but in this case I think it’s a bit more necessary. Likewise would keep the roster down to a more manageable size in keeping with how the team originally started, so about 5 active members not counting whatever would pass for the new Xavier. Ideally I would prefer to give each character their own mini or one-shot to flesh them out before rolling them over into an ongoing series together but I think that’d be asking too much. Keeping with what the X-Men (used to) stand for the series would focus heavily on themes of equality and revolution.

- Wolverine 2099: Series would focus on Wolverine protecting mutantkind by actively hunting anti-mutant hate groups, corporations, and individuals that pose a threat to mutants. Created as part of clandestine program known as Project-X; clandestine program dedicated to the pursuit and eradication of mutants/mutates on behalf of [corporation/government]. Unlike Logan, title character would be shown to have volunteered; letting himself be subjected to numerous experimental procedures to augment his physical abilities and aid in acquisition and disposal of mutants. The mantle of Wolverine would originally be taken on in jest with [Wolverine] adopting it in earnest following the start of his crusade. Resolve to the program would falter upon the discovery of the X-Gene in his child early on in the series; with [him] spending several issues trying to keep his child’s mutant nature hidden from his superiors but ultimately being found out; death of child would be the catalyst Wolverine turning against Project-X and start protecting mutants

- Black Panther 2099: possibly serve as descendent of the Wakandan Royal Family; alternately random Wakandan revolutionary; in both cases potentially an exile. Wakanda shown to have expanded its borders in the years following T’Challa’s death; monarchy replaced by Council/Democratic system. The Dora Milaje grown to encompass security for all of Wakanda, serving as more of a police force alongside the Midnight Angels. Potentially replace traditional vibranium Panther Habit with Klyntar symbiote (Bast); assuming more panther-like features. Theme: heritage/revolution.

- Deadpool 2099: possibly depict as unwilling star of reality TV show similar to Longshot; potentially originate from the Mojo-verse or (illegally) genetically engineered by (company/show) solely for the sake of the show

- Thor 2099: center around an amnesiac baring a strong resemblance to Ultimate Thor that would be shown to be one of the last Thorites following purge, hammer & powers the result of artificial Mjolnir & battle armor. While not practical for a one-shot or mini-series one of the ongoing plot threads would be the implication of the central character either being the reincarnation of Thor Odinson or having some connections to him that would be explored over the course of a series. Primary theme would be faith.

- Dr. Strange 2099: build series around the concept of magic trying to reassert itself in a world dominated by science & technology. title character shown to discover the Eye of Aggamoto early into the series, artifact acting as the title characters gateway into the world of magic; with the Cloak of Levitation and Sorcerer Sanctorum appearing over the course of the series alongside other mystic artifacts thought lost to time. theme: magic

- Inhumans 2099: Taking a few cues from the mutants and the X-Men the series would deal with the aforementioned group discreetly resurfacing, either following the destruction of Attilan after some unspecified event or after secretly hiding from humanity underground for years. As Marvel never capitalized on the opportunity while pushing the Inhumans, the theme would center on immigration.

I like all of those ideas for your take on 2099, but especially the following points --- using the event to clean up and resolve dangling plot threads from the original series and your intros of Venom 2099 and Black Panther 2099.

[phantom1592]

I like all of those ideas for your take on 2099, but especially the following points --- using the event to clean up and resolve dangling plot threads from the original series

I'm a bit torn on that concept.

On the one hand, I would only be interested in 2099 series because i used to be interested in the old 2099 series' and reinventing the wheel does nothing for me. Those stories were what i want to read.


On the other hand... it was a really short imprint. Looks like it went decent from what? 1992-1996? then a few one shots to try and wrap up things??

I'm not really sure that if i was in charge of the company... i'd want to limit my writers to a story that was 25 years old plot holes and wasn't overly successful THEN. It really limits the audience you're aiming for. Especially for books that don't seem to get the TPB treatment and even fans in the day may not remember all the loopholes and plot threads that were abandoned.

[Huntsman Spider]

I'm a bit torn on that concept.

On the one hand, I would only be interested in 2099 series because i used to be interested in the old 2099 series' and reinventing the wheel does nothing for me. Those stories were what i want to read.


On the other hand... it was a really short imprint. Looks like it went decent from what? 1992-1996? then a few one shots to try and wrap up things??

I'm not really sure that if i was in charge of the company... i'd want to limit my writers to a story that was 25 years old plot holes and wasn't overly successful THEN. It really limits the audience you're aiming for. Especially for books that don't seem to get the TPB treatment and even fans in the day may not remember all the loopholes and plot threads that were abandoned.

That's a good point, I'll admit, but that could always be solved by a relatively short "how we got here" recap.

[Ultimate Captain America]

The original "Old Man Logan", the one by Millar, was great. I wouldn't change anything from it. And the ending promised a sequel with Wolverine on a killing spree of wastelands villains.

The problem, however, is the sequel by Bendis. It was a Secret Wars tie-in, so it soon degenerated into something else completely: Logan in the Age of Apocalypse domain, Logan in the Marvel Zombies domain, Logan in Tony Stark's technological utopia domain, Logan in the Ultimate End domain... and from there, to the 616 universe. So I rewrote it, in Ultimate Secret Wars: The Big Fat Kill Yes, it is also set in a Secret Wars context, but lives up to the sequel hook promised by the ending of the original one, and does not make any domain jumps (not until it ties in into the grander story, I mean). I made a small change: before eating Logan Hulk mentioned that someone else ordered him to kill Logan's family (but that he would have done it anyway), so the story is driven by Logan trying to find out who it was.

There's even a cameo of some villains that you would never believe!

[Draegwolf]

2099 Cont'd

- Inhumans 2099 (alt): Alternatively the Inhumans could merely be term used to describe any superpowered individual, with the roster of characters being made up of a combination of gamma mutants, cosmically enhanced individuals, augmented humans, atlanteans, aliens, nuhumans, etc. Might even be interesting to see this group made up of lower-class individuals take ques from their namesake and attempt to form their own society and culture as more “Inhumans” begin manifesting as events progress. Could probably roll the character of Ravage over into the group to serve given his origin and how he went through multiple mutations over the course of his series, even the characters environmental themes could translate well in how many Inhumans could attribute their present condition to exposure to any number of pollutants and/or radiation.

- Deadpool: depict as initially unknowing and then unwilling star of reality TV show similar to Longshot, genetically engineered illegally by [company] solely for the sake of the show. Think a much darker take on the Truman Show in which Jim Carrey is repeatedly hunted down and potentially killed for the sake of entertainment, at which point he’s immediately cloned or mindwiped in order to repeat the process over and over. The show’s producer would serve as the primary antagonist and act in accordance with a more toned-down version of Mojo who nonetheless feels compelled to film and broadcast the events of the comic, albeit controlling the narrative in his/her attempts to reacquire the protagonist. Villains could include rival reality stars from the studio, villains and monsters from other shows, etc. With that in mind it could be left in doubt as to whether or not everything going on is actually happening or just another simulation for the show, casting doubt as to whether the protagonist actually managed to escape, was saved, or merely freed to further the studios agenda for higher ratings. Themes of perception, choice, and freedom would factor heavily into the narrative.

[Cyberstrike]

I would say Civil War 2 but that thing was crap from the start and while you can make it less crap, it's still going to be crap.

[Huntsman Spider]

2099 Cont'd

- Inhumans 2099 (alt): Alternatively the Inhumans could merely be term used to describe any superpowered individual, with the roster of characters being made up of a combination of gamma mutants, cosmically enhanced individuals, augmented humans, atlanteans, aliens, nuhumans, etc. Might even be interesting to see this group made up of lower-class individuals take ques from their namesake and attempt to form their own society and culture as more “Inhumans” begin manifesting as events progress. Could probably roll the character of Ravage over into the group to serve given his origin and how he went through multiple mutations over the course of his series, even the characters environmental themes could translate well in how many Inhumans could attribute their present condition to exposure to any number of pollutants and/or radiation.

- Deadpool: depict as initially unknowing and then unwilling star of reality TV show similar to Longshot, genetically engineered illegally by [company] solely for the sake of the show. Think a much darker take on the Truman Show in which Jim Carrey is repeatedly hunted down and potentially killed for the sake of entertainment, at which point he’s immediately cloned or mindwiped in order to repeat the process over and over. The show’s producer would serve as the primary antagonist and act in accordance with a more toned-down version of Mojo who nonetheless feels compelled to film and broadcast the events of the comic, albeit controlling the narrative in his/her attempts to reacquire the protagonist. Villains could include rival reality stars from the studio, villains and monsters from other shows, etc. With that in mind it could be left in doubt as to whether or not everything going on is actually happening or just another simulation for the show, casting doubt as to whether the protagonist actually managed to escape, was saved, or merely freed to further the studios agenda for higher ratings. Themes of perception, choice, and freedom would factor heavily into the narrative.

I like your ideas for Inhumans 2099 and Deadpool 2099. While I was fine with the "canon" Deadpool 2099, I think your take has a lot of great thematic promise and potential.