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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    I would because that would ******* kill them. The creatives get paid based off of sales, if nothing is selling no one is getting paid. They will not stop putting out product, they simply can’t. What they should be doing is promoting Unlimited and Universe. DC’s dumbass decision to limit Universe to the USA is going to bite them in the ass now.
    We're talking about future comics, so I don't think Unlimited or Universe are all that relevant given the delay between when newer issues pop up on both services, this is more somewhere I see Comixology shining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Stone View Post
    If DC and Marvel at least offered pdf or cbr files for the books, like Image does, then I could see a justification for the price.
    Yes, PDF's you get to keep. Digital subscriptions are only good as long as you keep on paying.

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    My shop has already been forced to close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    We're talking about future comics, so I don't think Unlimited or Universe are all that relevant given the delay between when newer issues pop up on both services, this is more somewhere I see Comixology shining.
    That delay could easily go away though. It’s only there because DC and Marvel don’t want to undercut their current sales, which is no longer a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harpsikord View Post
    Yeah, no, that's asinine. They're both major corporations who still have people working under them on the daily and new scripts continuing to be written, and it's not like there isn't a market or platform to continue selling comics on. And they've been informed early enough to know to stop even printing out physical copies, so it isn't like they'll really be taking a loss once this goes into effect because they aren't spending the fees for the print market.

    I'm not saying print comics are about to die, or anything, just that it doesn't make sense for Marvel and DC to stop releasing comics altogether when they can make these comics for less than before and still likely turn profit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    I would because that would ******* kill them. The creatives get paid based off of sales, if nothing is selling no one is getting paid. They will not stop putting out product, they simply canít. What they should be doing is promoting Unlimited and Universe. DCís dumbass decision to limit Universe to the USA is going to bite them in the ass now.
    I never said they would stop putting out books. Just that they would put a temporary hiatus on their print titles (Action Comics, Detective Comics, etc) and do some digital-first series that would eventually come out in print. Similar to what DC's done with the Injustice books, or Marvel did with the most recent Jessica Jones series.

    Just as a theoretical example, let's say this goes on for 4 months. Action Comics #1021 is in shops this Wednesday. If DC continued the book digitally while the physical distribution stopped, would your next print issue be #1026? Would they publish those issues in print once they start shipping books again for those that don't read digital (i.e. most of the comic readership based on the numbers given by the major publishers)? If they did, you'd be expecting the print readers to buy 5 issues of Action Comics alone that month just to get caught up to the digital book, not counting any other DC books you may read doing the same thing. I doubt they'd just leave a gap in the issue numbering and never print the issues. Comics are still very much a collector-heavy genre, and it would be a logistical nightmare for collectors and print-only readers.

    It just makes sense to me to hold off on the current title storylines and create alternate content until books start shipping again. Plus, it would give the creators a chance to get some issues in the can and help with the constant problem of delays the major companies have had as of late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godlike13 View Post
    My shop has already been forced to close.
    Close...or close forever?
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    We're on lock down for 3 weeks here in MI of all non-essential services, but my shop has not made an announcement as of yet. They are a two person shop, closing for 3 weeks is going to be rough for them. They don't do much online but some eBay.

    I have DCU, and I may read comics on there, but I want the floppies, I have over 600 straight issues of Batman and Detective each.
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    All these shops can get federal help.

    I myself will never ever read comics digitally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    I mean part of the reason digital sales have flatlined is because Marvel and DC have kept the prices equal with print copies. If they were to cut the digital prices that would start causing sales to rise.
    If they halved the price, they would have to double sales to make up the lost revenue. Plus make up lost revenue from print and from ad sales in print copies. If they dropped prices to 99 cents they would have to quadruple sales to make up lost revenue. Do you honeslty think a price drop would result in that big a sales jump? And even if it did, where does the lost revenue from ad sales get made up?


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    If DC does go through with continuing to release comics digitally, they need to do some agressive marketing urging people to buy legally and not ust reading isseus on illegal reading sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRP View Post
    If they halved the price, they would have to double sales to make up the lost revenue. Plus make up lost revenue from print and from ad sales in print copies. If they dropped prices to 99 cents they would have to quadruple sales to make up lost revenue. Do you honeslty think a price drop would result in that big a sales jump? And even if it did, where does the lost revenue from ad sales get made up?


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    I would be willing to do digital with a LOT more titles if they were $1.99-99 cents.

    Who says ads have to be taken out? Most of those ads seem to promote DC or Warner Brother related stuff.

    How much is that costing you? An ad for Batwoman on CW poster is probably the same poster being used on billboards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyvolt2000 View Post
    I would be willing to do digital with a LOT more titles if they were $1.99-99 cents.

    Who says ads have to be taken out? Most of those ads seem to promote DC or Warner Brother related stuff.

    How much is that costing you? An ad for Batwoman on CW poster is probably the same poster being used on billboards.
    They don't have to be "taken out" but advertisers pay based on print circulation numbers, not digital, so they will not pay DC/WB/AT&T to put ads in if there is no print circulation. There are much more cost effective ways to advertise online than inside digital versions of comics, print ads, there's not a lot of options. So it's not a matter of having to take them out, it's a matter of they won't be getting paid to have them in there.

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    I think a good solution is to offer a discount on the physical book if you buy it digitally.

    So, you buy it digitally for full price and then when the LCS get's the physical version you can go pick it up for a dollar.

    Let the publisher eat the cost since they already got paid for the digital release as well as a extra dollar for the physical book and they get the good will from the LCS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampire Savior View Post
    This is, of course, your prerogative, I'm sure you have reasons for feeling that way, and I'm not attempting to change your mind (not that I think I could), but I admit that I find such a staunch stance to be unreasonable...and somewhat backwards. I'm considering the reverse. If someone told me they will NEVER EVER read a physical printed book...I would leave them to it, but I would probably look at them sideways for a second or two if they said that, because it's a weird stance to take to me.

    The main concerns for comics to me are...is the story good? Is the art good? Having a yes to both of those questions is what it will take for me to read a comic (and enjoy it). Whether it's on a digital device or not is mostly neither here nor there. I understand the hobby of collecting things, and wanting to physically own what you pay for, but to say you will NEVER EVER read a comic on a tablet is...eccentric to me.

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    Regarding this crisis, I try to see things on the bright side. I'm hoping it expedites a direction more towards going digital for monthly installments so that the price of comics can hopefully come down so that they're more accessible to people. I'm also hoping it causes people to be more innovative toward getting these products successful outside of the direct market. Granted, this is all coming from someone who is not a comic shop person and doesn't have any sentimental ties to that whole thing. For the people who are involved with all that, I'm sure all of this is a serious bummer, and I understand that.
    I agree with all of this. And I used to be that "never ever" guy, until I was bored at work one day and saw a post here about a comixology sale. I've been almost exclusively digital ever since.

    I haven't paid more than $5.99 for a tpb/OGN since 2012. The sales on comixology are unbeatable, and for the stuff I missed out on, I read it with my Comixology Unlimited sub or on the DCU app. I still buy the occasional tpb or floppy for custom binding purposes, but the ease with which I can pull up anything I own on my Fire HD 10 tablet is surreal. My entire collection, available anytime I get an itch, sitting in my briefcase.

    I feel for the shops...even though I've gone digital, I still frequent my LCS for merch (figures, posters, etc), and I'd be devastated to see it close. But yeah, digital all the way for this guy. The art looks better, you can read them in any light, and sales sales sales. A $5.99 tpb or a cover priced copy at my LCS is a no brainer 100% of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRP View Post
    If they halved the price, they would have to double sales to make up the lost revenue. Plus make up lost revenue from print and from ad sales in print copies. If they dropped prices to 99 cents they would have to quadruple sales to make up lost revenue. Do you honeslty think a price drop would result in that big a sales jump? And even if it did, where does the lost revenue from ad sales get made up?


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    They would also cut down on costs. Printing stuff isn’t free. And the all digital future is coming either way. If comics can’t figure out how to make the transition well, then they won’t be around in 20 years.

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