X-Men/Fantastic Four #3 Discussion

[Steel Inquisitor]

but aren't you the one in denial tho?

No. The person I'm arguing with thinks everything Hickman will permanently be safe from editorial retcons. This is comics, no comic book is safe from that. Look what they did to Morrison's run and he had power over editorial, as well. House of X isn't in a safe little pocket outside Marvel editorial's say so forever.

maybe I'm missing something because i didn't read y'all whole argument but from what I can gather, your whole point is that what Hickman is doing right now with Moira, the X-Men, and Krakoa might change because it's what Marvel does, but it's not like new things never stick at Marvel. so whether it may or may not get retconned later is a moot point because if it's big enough to grab eyeballs, sustainable, and overall successful enough it's just as likely to stay as it is to be retconned. [/quote]

Krakoa staying in the present won't stop it from being retconned when editorial feels like it, Hickman will move on eventually.

So, in essence, all you're doing at this point in time is putting your fingers in your ears to what they're doing and banking on it to changing one day; which sounds like active denial.

I'm not "banking" on anything changing one day, this is inevitable. When did you two start reading comics?

I mean, people banked on the same thing over at DC with Johns and the Emotional Spectrum, all that stuff still exists to this day tho.

You're not seeing my whole argument, I'm saying the future time line isn't concrete - not hat Krakoa won't impact the current setting. Which in itself is not concrete as Hickman has been setting up its fall from the start, don't count on things staying like this during his whole run.

Yep. The whole argument started in the literal denial of what Powers of X #6 explained as far as mutants being the next step in evolution and confirming how Moira’s powers work by constantly calling it an “alternate future.” But if they’re just gonna actively ignore what’s on the page, then there really isn’t any hope. Denial at its finest.

If you think a page in a comic book is going to stop other writers and editors retconning things in the X-men in the future you've got another thing common. I'm not the one in denial. If what you're saying is true we'd still be having a Days of Future Past future. But carry on, clearly what I'm saying won't change your mind. I'm curious how you're going to react once Hickman leaves.