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    I thought Hickman already stated in an interview this was the real Xavier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflykyss View Post
    I thought Hickman already stated in an interview this was the real Xavier?
    He did. This IS the REAL Xavier.

    I think people are complaining that: "It's not MY Xavier"

    The Man hasn't changed...he's still the Manipulative-Kindhearted-Hopeful-Naive-Bastard like the Old Days.....lol Nothing's changed about him other than his tactics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflykyss View Post
    I thought Hickman already stated in an interview this was the real Xavier?
    He could lie. And twist the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    The dude died and was resurrected. I think the Five and Jean Grey (whom had his memories in her head) would know if whom they cloned wasnt Charles
    Solid. I hadn't thought of that yet. If they are still wanting this to be Fantomex body then they really need to explain how that works since Xavier was resurrected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stormphoenix View Post
    He did. This IS the REAL Xavier.

    I think people are complaining that: "It's not MY Xavier"
    I think that LOL is appropriate here.

    We're reading about a Xavier who has known since his University years that Moira McTaggert is a multiply reincarnated mutant with first hand evidence that their species is doomed to - at best - endangered species status in a world of uninterested superhumans. A Xavier who has been in league with Magneto during most of the X-Men's history, a Xavier who knew about and recruited Sinister as a genetic specialist before he became a major X-Villain and told no one about him.

    Whose Xavier was THAT* again? 8-)


    (*Hickman's. That's who)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewMutant View Post
    Solid. I hadn't thought of that yet. If they are still wanting this to be Fantomex body then they really need to explain how that works since Xavier was resurrected.
    I think Hickman confirmed that he has not Fantomex body anymore in an interview. I guess will find out more in his Giant Size Issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormphoenix View Post
    He did. This IS the REAL Xavier.

    I think people are complaining that: "It's not MY Xavier"

    The Man hasn't changed...he's still the Manipulative-Kindhearted-Hopeful-Naive-Bastard like the Old Days.....lol Nothing's changed about him other than his tactics.
    thnks boo.. I was like why is this still a question lol.
    that said I think Xavier, after what was revealed to him in dox, this response is appropriate and should be expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    I think Hickman confirmed that he has not Fantomex body anymore in an interview. I guess will find out more in his Giant Size Issue.
    yes he did you are correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nullviahomo View Post
    A Xavier who has been in league with Magneto during most of the X-Men's history
    Xavier and Moira recruited Magneto at the same time in the comics, starting in Uncanny 150, and are even shown using the same boat as they did in Powers of X 2 when they recruit him as they did in that issue. This began a process of Magneto's redemption that culminated in Uncanny 200, when he ends up joining the X-Men and taking over as headmaster for the New Mutants for Xavier.

    This is the same Xavier it's always been.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nullviahomo View Post
    Whose Xavier was THAT* again? 8-)
    The same one who wiped the minds of everyone in Bobby Drake's home-town when he recruited him with no regard, and lied about Scott's brother after sending him to his death in Deadly Genesis. Are those only Gary Friedrich, and Ed Brubaker's Xaviers? LOL is appropriate at pretending that only one author has ever made Xavier do questionable things, or that Hickman's version is somehow invalid or not the same because of a retcon, which again, every author does, unless Claremont's Xavier wasn't Wein's, who wasn't Thomas's, who wasn't Lee's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nullviahomo View Post
    I think that LOL is appropriate here.

    We're reading about a Xavier who has known since his University years that Moira McTaggert is a multiply reincarnated mutant with first hand evidence that their species is doomed to - at best - endangered species status in a world of uninterested superhumans. A Xavier who has been in league with Magneto during most of the X-Men's history, a Xavier who knew about and recruited Sinister as a genetic specialist before he became a major X-Villain and told no one about him.

    Whose Xavier was THAT* again? 8-)


    (*Hickman's. That's who)
    Not all the time Magneto broke his ties with Moira and Xavier during mutant genesis after he discovered Moira made some changes to his dna while he was in her care, this means Xavier and Magneto were allies around the time Magneto went to live on the X-mansion imo. It isn´t clear since when they remade their links, my guess is that it happened after the X-men and Magneto came back from the Age of X world and Hickman points to it on HoX



    He also made Mr Sinister forget about meeting him but other than that everything happened as it was supposed to happen imo.
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    .....onslaught? He's sort of an alternate persona of Xavier's (Didn't he show up when Red Skull used his brain?), plus there's that really old issue with an evil Xavier persona too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ISnowNothin View Post
    LOL is appropriate at pretending that only one author has ever made Xavier do questionable things, or that Hickman's version is somehow invalid or not the same because of a retcon, which again, every author does, unless Claremont's Xavier wasn't Wein's, who wasn't Thomas's, who wasn't Lee's.
    LOL indeed. You'll have to point me at whoever it is doing that so we can laugh at them together.

    Oh, you mean me? That's... yeah, what a very odd reading.

    Hickman's retcon of who and why Xavier is who he is is entirely valid. Not just because, as the writer of the X-Men he gets to call the shots just like everyone else, but because he's put the work in to sell the retcon within the wider reinvention of X-Men history. I'm entirely loving it and can't wait to see where he goes with it.

    But, and it's a big old humongous but, let's not pretend that this retcon doesn't change everything about who Charles Xavier has been since the birth of the X-Men. He's seen Moira's memories, and while (she believes) he doesn't have perfect recall of what he saw in them, his entire history has taken a 2'4 to the noggin because of them. The Charles Xavier we were reading about before HOX/POX was a dreamer with an imperfectly restrained dark side who screwed up almost as much as he inspired and yet never gave up honestly believing that the example of his students could lead to mutant/human co-existance. The Charles Xavier we've been reading about since HOX/POX debuted knew his Dream was doomed and, if Moira's journal entries are to be believed, his stumbles into evil have been at least partially the result of him knowing this but being unwilling to admit it.

    So yeah, the retcon has fundamentally changed the Xavier we were reading about into a different character with a radically different history. I don't see how anyone can be in denial about this.


    And regarding the Magneto stuff, your point is taken. Can't a man exaggerate just a little to make a point? 8-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by stormphoenix View Post
    Exactly. Who else could it be.
    It could only be...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Really? I think the current Xavier is more sympathetic than he has been in years including the last story that featured him prior to Hickman's run





    Mindwiping the O4. Awakening Archangel so that he could use Warren to commit murder for him. This dude right here was borderline evil. The current Xavier is more in line with the Xavier of old
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucyinthesky View Post
    Not all the time Magneto broke his ties with Moira and Xavier during mutant genesis after he discovered Moira made some changes to his dna while he was in her care, this means Xavier and Magneto were allies around the time Magneto went to live on the X-mansion imo. It isn´t clear since when they remade their links, my guess is that it happened after the X-men and Magneto came back from the Age of X world and Hickman points to it on HoX



    He also made Mr Sinister forget about meeting him but other than that everything happened as it was supposed to happen imo.
    Yeah, I hold my hand up about the exaggeration. OTOH, Xavier was conspiring with the X-Men's main enemy behind their backs and sealed the alliance with him through secret information he - still - hasn't revealed to his own 'children'. And now that you mention it it now occurs to me that a lot of Magneto's history needs looking at through the prism of HOX/POX's revelations as well. He's known about the Doomed Future for a good long chunk of X-years.

    Sinister, OTOH, didn't that issue of HOX make it plain that he dodged Xavier's mind-blank and remembered the recruitment only too well?

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