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    Default Would Jesus Cable have heen capable of beating any of the Phoneix Five?

    Cable got beat by surfer, but he was still impressive. Is he steong enough to beat any of them?

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    Given that Chaz managed to out TP a couple of them when there were 5, I think that Jesus Cable could mindwhammy any of the five individually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    Given that Chaz managed to out TP a couple of them when there were 5, I think that Jesus Cable could mindwhammy any of the five individually.
    Any of them? Even Phoenix Emma?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle View Post
    Any of them? Even Phoenix Emma?
    Probably? I mean, she never really had that impressive a TP showing when she was Phoenix'ed up that I recall, nothing on the line of mainlining the thoughts of every single human on earth all at once. JC did that, for an extended period. JC was miles and miles stronger than Chaz - something Chaz outright said when he was checking into what Cable was up to.

    Based on how the Phoenix force has been presented over time, maybe she should be stronger, but she lacks the feats, and Charles flat out mind whammied a couple of the P5 during that arc. Cable is far stronger than Charles, ergo...
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    The fact that Cable went toe to toe with Silver Surfer and held his own is more impressive than anything I can recall any of the Phoenix guys doing. That's not counting the issues where Emma beat Thor because that was just kinda weird.

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    Thor wasn't just defeated by Phoenix Emma, he was literally defeated by all the P5 throughout the story, even in split up form
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    While also still split into 5, a non-bloodlusted Cyclops casually beamstruggled with a bloodlusted as hell Gladiator and took a punch to the face that barely fazed him
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    Namor and Colossus then beat him to near-death just as casually
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    And again, this was all just in split up form.

    Now as for the battle itself, while they are still split up in 5, Cable actually has good chances (on that note, why didn't he mindwhammy the Surfer?)

    As soon as the Force gets split up between less of them, he is toast.

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    I was thinking of the fight when it was JUST Thor vs Emma. He shattered her diamond body into tiny pieces and somehow she was able to use all the pieces at projectiles to , shred him up. Then she pulled herself back together and punched the badly bleeding Thor a few times.

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    Hmm, I wonder how classic Odin would fare against them.

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    Yes he can, they're not that powerful with just 1/5 of the Phoenix and Emma's Telepathy wasn't impressive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slade1 View Post
    Hmm, I wonder how classic Odin would fare against them.
    In their split up form, they have no chance.

    Full Power Dark Phoenix Cyclops on the other hand is a different beast
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchist View Post
    And again, this was all just in split up form.

    Now as for the battle itself, while they are still split up in 5, Cable actually has good chances (on that note, why didn't he mindwhammy the Surfer?)
    Surfer actually has insane mental resistance feats. I think Moondragon once hit him with her best shot, and did all of knock him down. He then stood up and laughed in her face.

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    Surfer is one of those guys with insane resistance feats on many levels. Mental is just one of them, and he's impressive as hell in that context.

    Jesus Cable might not be able to physically win, but he was a was crazy powerful as a telepath, and none of the P5 have telepathy feats on his level.

    And yes, Scott mainlining the whole force is WAY out of Jesus Cable's league. That's just not the fight here.
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    Should be noted that Cable was able to hold his own with the Surfer while also trying to keep a city afloat. So he's at least not dying super quick here.
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    Who is Jesus Cable?

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    Cable, but not suffering from the Technorganic Virus which he has to devote like... 99% of his power toward stopping.
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