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    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerz79 View Post
    Norton locked out the Director and edited American History X the Director famously wanted his name off the film. Norton is a good actor but Egomanic fits him.
    Again how is it egomaniac in the case of Hulk when an actor wants a gritter multidimensional character to play above the badly done opposite alternative?

    Ed Norton in the small time frame was the best Hulk, edging out Eric Banner.

    Calling him an egomaniac is laughable. The top 10 moments list should be re-titled 10 superior movies that cannot be made now in the MCU. Ed Norton's vision of a Dark Knight inspired Hulk film would be in the number 1 spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvelgirl View Post
    Again how is it egomaniac in the case of Hulk when an actor wants a gritter multidimensional character to play above the badly done opposite alternative?

    Ed Norton in the small time frame was the best Hulk, edging out Eric Banner.

    Calling him an egomaniac is laughable. The top 10 moments list should be re-titled 10 superior movies that cannot be made now in the MCU. Ed Norton's vision of a Dark Knight inspired Hulk film would be in the number 1 spot.
    Yes, Norton was an ego maniac

    https://www.cracked.com/article_2234...t-changes.html

    Its right there in the first entry. And it's clear that he had little understanding of Bruce Banner, as in the movie itself, sex threatened t turn him into the Hulk. At least Mark understood that his character needed to be angry

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    Yes, Norton was an ego maniac

    https://www.cracked.com/article_2234...t-changes.html

    Its right there in the first entry. And it's clear that he had little understanding of Bruce Banner, as in the movie itself, sex threatened t turn him into the Hulk. At least Mark understood that his character needed to be angry

    Sex with someone you care about is a powerful emotion that can pull many triggers with humans. The sex part sounds interesting, it makes the story mature with extra dimensions to the character beyond being angry.

    Attacking Ed not his message of a more deeper thoughtful unsafe Hulk story only proves he was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvelgirl View Post
    Sex with someone you care about is a powerful emotion that can pull many triggers with humans. The sex part sounds interesting, it makes the story mature with extra dimensions to the character beyond being angry.

    Attacking Ed not his message of a more deeper thoughtful unsafe Hulk story only proves he was right.
    First, way to glide around the fact that Ed Norton was an ego maniac on set.

    Second, anger has been Hulk's trigger 90% of the time. Having sex with a loved one is as far away from anger that one can get. A guy who transforms into a monster because he gets excited is hardly dramatic, and belongs in your much hated comedies.

    Ed Norton robbed Hulk of any meaningful pathos and wanted to shoe jorn Omar Little into the movie...because.

    There was no loss in him not returning as Hulk. Mark R at least acts like a man who knows he has something dangerous inside of him.
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    Hulk turning into Hulk because he gets horny is “mature”?

    ::quietly steps over there::

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    Banner turning into Hulk because he's turned on is one of the dumbest things in all superhero movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderClops View Post
    Banner turning into Hulk because he's turned on is one of the dumbest things in all superhero movies.
    Buffy is not only regarded as one of the best written shows on TV, its the greatest thing Whedon gave the world as a writer. Its superior to any of the Avengers films he made. Why did Angel loose his soul again turning back to the evil Angelus. It feels pathetic vs the MCU, calling something dumb to excuse MCU table spoon hollow fed story that cannot allow any other more challenging dimensions.

    It gets more pathetic for the MCU when you learn the truth that psychologists have shown that sex is a bigger trigger for men than any other emotion. Men think and are driven more by sex than anger. Any other comic movie can and would have been able to address that issue except Disney right?

    Oh, yes , am getting into adult territory themes here. I need to remember this is MCU, a kids action comedy series.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    First, way to glide around the fact that Ed Norton was an ego maniac on set.

    Second, anger has been Hulk's trigger 90% of the time. Having sex with a loved one is as far away from anger that one can get. A guy who transforms into a monster because he gets excited is hardly dramatic, and belongs in your much hated comedies.

    Ed Norton robbed Hulk of any meaningful pathos and wanted to shoe jorn Omar Little into the movie...because.
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    What Ed was saying was Anger was not enough. He wanted other triggers to give the character more.

    There was no loss in him not returning as Hulk. Mark R at least acts like a man who knows he has something dangerous inside of him
    Ed Norton portrayed Hulk in a superior fashion. Mark R is too comical and soapy. Ed was intimidating. He was more convincing playing the role seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvelgirl View Post
    It gets more pathetic for the MCU when you learn the truth that psychologists have shown that sex is a bigger trigger for men than any other emotion. Men think and are driven more by sex than anger. Any other comic movie can and would have been able to address that issue except Disney right?

    Oh, yes , am getting into adult territory themes here. I need to remember this is MCU, a kids action comedy series.
    Ironically, I find it hilarious you think that the 'sex as a trigger' is pathos while deriding the MCU films for being kiddie comedy. Because that's all the sex as a trigger was/is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marvelgirl View Post
    What Ed was saying was Anger was not enough. He wanted other triggers to give the character more.
    More comedy? Yeah, that was the only point there.

    The Hulk is, at it's core, a man struggling to contain his inner demons. Inability to bang, is not that (well, for non Incels)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marvelgirl View Post
    Ed Norton portrayed Hulk in a superior fashion. Mark R is too comical and soapy. Ed was intimidating. He was more convincing playing the role seriously.
    'Ed was intimidating'. That right there is why he was the wrong person to play Bruce Banner.

    Mark R plays a character who's aware of how dangerous he is, to those around him and how they might react.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvelgirl View Post
    Buffy is not only regarded as one of the best written shows on TV, its the greatest thing Whedon gave the world as a writer. Its superior to any of the Avengers films he made. Why did Angel loose his soul again turning back to the evil Angelus. It feels pathetic vs the MCU, calling something dumb to excuse MCU table spoon hollow fed story that cannot allow any other more challenging dimensions.

    It gets more pathetic for the MCU when you learn the truth that psychologists have shown that sex is a bigger trigger for men than any other emotion. Men think and are driven more by sex than anger. Any other comic movie can and would have been able to address that issue except Disney right?

    Oh, yes , am getting into adult territory themes here. I need to remember this is MCU, a kids action comedy series.



    What Ed was saying was Anger was not enough. He wanted other triggers to give the character more.



    Ed Norton portrayed Hulk in a superior fashion. Mark R is too comical and soapy. Ed was intimidating. He was more convincing playing the role seriously.
    Angel did not transform back to Angelus because of the Sex. It was because he was truly happy. Stop making up stuff to make your "Points".
    And if you really think Mark Ruffalo is "too comical and soapy" you Need to watch the movie again without your bias.

    Thanks for the laugh again. "sex is a bigger trigger for men than any other Emotion" Really? So much wrong in one sentence.

    But seeing you seem incapable of understanding the Buffy Scene you mentioned it is no wonder you would think this.

    If you try to sell your opinion as fact at least try to stay with the truth. But knowing your usual Posts that would be impossible for you.

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    I'm trying to remember that Buffy episode now lol. Didn't he transform after the sex? I can't remember now lol.

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    Angel turned the first time because his needs were simplistic. All he wanted was to be with Buffy. So once he got that, he achieved "perfect happiness." It was a great metaphor for how men change after sex and how first lives turn bad afterwards.

    In "Angel" we see his growth. When they need to bring Angelus back in season 4, you see how it takes a lot more for him to become "perfectly happy."

    It was never just sex. They drive that home when he sleeps with Darla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunch of Coconuts View Post
    Hulk turning into Hulk because he gets horny is “mature”?

    ::quietly steps over there::
    It is gritter and multidimensional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakiduam View Post
    It is gritter and multidimensional.
    It sounds Puritanical, if anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunch of Coconuts View Post
    It sounds Puritanical, if anything.
    For what I understand, it wasn't even up to Disney to make a Hulk trilogy, gritter or otherwise, Universal had the rights in some way and Marvel could only use the character in team-ups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakiduam View Post
    For what I understand, it wasn't even up to Disney to make a Hulk trilogy, gritter or otherwise, Universal had the rights in some way and Marvel could only use the character in team-ups.
    Yeah, there’s that too...

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