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    Default Silver Surfer vs. Gladiator + Thor

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    Gladiator and Thor are a stacked fusion. They are 1 person with the powers and abilities of both added up.
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    Specific Frequency of radiation weakness still screws him here. Surfer knows it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendaran View Post
    Specific Frequency of radiation weakness still screws him here. Surfer knows it.
    Why would that screw him when Thor has no weakness to it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    Why would that screw him when Thor has no weakness to it?
    OP didn't say the fusion loses any weaknesses they have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendaran View Post
    OP didn't say the fusion loses any weaknesses they have.
    But half of the fusion is not weak to it. So how would we treat weakness' in fusions?

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    That was it for me: it would have to get through Thor (I chill in suns) resistance to radiation to even start on Glads.

    Plus Thoriator can just absorb or transform the energy. He's speed equal or so here, so Surfer doesn't have an easy out. Transmuting Thor required Twilight being harnessed, and that's a fair site above Surfer power level, so that's out.

    I'm not saying Surfer gets stomped, but he's at a pretty significant disadvantage here, given that his advantages against one or the other are mitigated by the comp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slade1 View Post
    But half of the fusion is not weak to it. So how would we treat weakness' in fusions?
    It bypasses the resistances of a guy who swims around in suns otherwise, don't really see stacking Thor onto that helping him much.

    Given the Surfer's energy output, he could just emit a ton of said radiation while being capable of other things, whereas the fusion is going to need to focus on absorbing that.

    edit: to be more specific, it would be like the idea of stacking someone onto, say, Superman, somehow reducing the kryptonite weakness because the other person doesn't have a kryptonite weakness. It doesn't particularly feel sensical to work that way. The weakness is still there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Arbiter View Post
    All 616. Arena. Classic Thor.

    Gladiator and Thor are a stacked fusion. They are 1 person with the powers and abilities of both added up.
    That gets to be a pretty good match.

    I'd favor the fusion somewhat, call it 7 or 8 out of 10. Glads without Thor added is not that far from Surfer, he just loses because Surfer has esoterics (attacking his particular energy weakness, or just transmuting him, or d-dumping him). Adding Thor means that he's out of Surfer's ability to transmute, that weird energy no longer does anything, he can come back from dimension, time and whatever shennanigans, and the stack of Thor plus Glads is somewhat stronger and more durable than Surfer. Speed is pretty much equal, so yeah, the comp wins.
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