Would clark walking away from lois have been better than action comics #1004?

[manwhohaseverything]

We have had this discussion many times in the forum. But, we never had a poll. So, here it is. For the context of why this thread was made visit jon appreciation thread.

I ask, because if that had happened atleast clark would have been salvageable as a redeemable as a father and a husband. Clark's reaction to his wife was pathetic in my opinion.There is stark contrast between this guy and this guy below.


Shouldn't they face consequences for their actions? Furthermore, can the clark and lois be redeemed?

[Yoda]

Jesus Christ. No. Because you’re ignoring the context of the actual story. You ignore the set up of Jor El. Then you ignore the context of what actually happened to Jon.

[OpaqueGiraffe17]

Clark has his fair share of blame from that mess. Bendis made the whole family idiots for the sake of his story.

Jesus Christ. No. Because you’re ignoring the context of the actual story. You ignore the set up of Jor El. Then you ignore the context of what actually happened to Jon.

Not to be snarky, but a lot of people would argue that Bendis ignored the Jor-El set up. And then he ignored any context with what happened to Jon by having him come out of years of isolated torture unphased.

[Jackalope89]

Nope, because this;

Clark has his fair share of blame from that mess. Bendis made the whole family idiots for the sake of his story.

Clark (under Bendis) agreed to let Lois and Jon go with Jor-El. For, well, not really sure. The reason given was so bad back then, it has only gotten worse with time and reflecting on it. And we STILL haven't gotten an answer for Jor-El popping up out of nowhere again.

[Blue22]

Clark would be a huge hyprocrite for it since what happened to Jon was just as much his fault as it was Lois'. But I'd have still had some modicum of respect for him if he had been angry with her. The only (terrible) reason he agreed to let him go in the first place was on the condition that Lois went with him. And then suddenly Lois is okay with leaving Jon with the homocidal maniac and Clark was supposed to just be okay with it because Jon "doesn't need us"? Yes the fuck he does! There is no hidden context or depth or whatever. It is what it is. Jor El was untrustworthy from the start and Lois abandoned her child with him. There's no other way to spin what that was. It was abandonment.

[Yoda]

Can someone please point me to the page where Jor El hurt Jon? I seem to have missed that one.

[OpaqueGiraffe17]

Can someone please point me to the page where Jor El hurt Jon? I seem to have missed that one.

I never saw Lex Luthor hurt Jon. Would it have been ok if Clark trusted him?

[lotchj]

clark would be a huge hyprocrite for it since what happened to jon was just as much his fault as it was lois'. But i'd have still had some modicum of respect for him if he had been angry with her. The only (terrible) reason he agreed to let him go in the first place was on the condition that lois went with him. And then suddenly lois is okay with leaving jon with the homocidal maniac and clark was supposed to just be okay with it because jon "doesn't need us"? Yes the fuck he does! There is no hidden context or depth or whatever. It is what it is. Jor el was untrustworthy from the start and lois abandoned her child with him. There's no other way to spin what that was. It was abandonment.

your right!!!

[manwhohaseverything]

Jesus Christ. No. Because you’re ignoring the context of the actual story. You ignore the set up of Jor El. Then you ignore the context of what actually happened to Jon.

It's fine, if you think this is alright with you. But to me, no context is making this any better. This is pure and simply nonsensical. Atleast when goku was shitty parent he was called out in story. Here, its not even happening. These two jackasses that ruined their kids childhood gets to live happy life. What kind of tragedy is this? Furthermore, jor el in Bendis's run itself is a nothing but lieing, conspirator that had a hand in even genocides and destruction of his own people. Going back jurgens run would only double that.

This what a real father would have done. Clark atleast could have been redeemable.
"i rather die than wait"

Clark has his fair share of blame from that mess. Bendis made the whole family idiots for the sake of his story.

While the whole family might be idiots. They weren't irredeemable they are now. Clark had lois to protect jon and gave her tech.Clark could easily be redeemed with him leaving lois and finding anyone to help in searching , namely hal who was asking about jon specifically. And green lanterns were in touch with jon.lois might be irredeemable, clark wasn't. He would have been just a flawed parent, not an irredeemable parent.

[Ascended]

Jesus Christ. No.

My thoughts exactly.