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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    Marc Guggenheim said that Jackpot was never intended to be MJ. IT was an idea, proposed by Slott, that the BND people thought they could tease and build up a mystery and use the uncertainty of the Mephisto retcon to rankle people around. They also saw her as an update on the Prowler, another vigilante on street level and so on.
    And writers often can barely be bothered to do anything with Hobie most of the time. No wonder she faded into obscurity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonEchidna View Post
    ...That's the big problem with "Mystery Box" writing.
    True, I hate mystery box writing it is so lazy and often pointless.
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    If you make a mystery have a decent answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetengine View Post
    If you make a mystery have a decent answer
    So true, and if the obvious answer is the answer, then don't make it a mystery.
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    Honestly, I feel like the concept was extremely interesting and a perfect fit for Spider-Man. Since she effectively stood as being a physical representation of the whole "great power means great responsibility", dodging her hero responsibility, subletting her identity to her friend, who wasn't truly ready or prepared for what to expect, and in turn resulting in her death, so the guilt leads her to take up the mantle again. It's a shame they didn't do much with Sara after this beyond those couple Web of Spider-Man issues where she faced the consequences of re-emerging as Jackpot, since there was alot of places you could explore that character and that dynamic.
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    I only read a few stories at the dawn of BND with Jackpot. I thought it was fine as a character and plot to have a registered hero that wasn't as capable as the outlaw Spider-Man was back then. I never imagined she would end up being MJ, so I was fine with the Sara twist. I think it was a playful mystery with the audience. I'm indifferent towards her appearing again in a Spider-Man series. If a writer has an interesting story to tell with her, go ahead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
    True, I hate mystery box writing it is so lazy and often pointless.

    Quote Originally Posted by jetengine View Post
    If you make a mystery have a decent answer

    Quote Originally Posted by LordMikel View Post
    So true, and if the obvious answer is the answer, then don't make it a mystery.
    Part of this too, I believe, is the inherent flaw of having a book with rotating writers as long as it did. Biggest flaw of the Brand New Day run for me personally was the lack of stability; each writer had a pretty clear preference on which supporting characters they favored. So any potential for the character got squandered due to the fact that Guggenheim was really the only one of the writers that had any plans for the character.
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    I'm not sure that Jackpot had much staying power, but I think more could have been done with both Alana & Sara. It would have been interesting if, for example, they hadn't stuffed Alana into the fridge and instead she'd gone back to her roots in social work (considering how big of a role FEAST was playing in that era), so she could become a friend to Peter and/or Spidey. An you would have a female character as a friend to Peter with none of the romantic baggage whatsoever, which would be a refreshing change.

    Sara was kind of ruined by her own miniseries basically vindicating that she made the right call in hanging up the costume and ends with her going back to her home planet - I mean, going into witness protection.

    But in both cases, if they found out Peter's secret id, you'd actually give him someone to commiserate with about the job that's not a preestablished hero that's tied up in other stuff, and that has a good reason to not just help Peter directly (Alana on account of her health, and Sara because she'd be unwilling).

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