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    Default Why can't krypotonians absorb lantern light constructs?

    If kryptonIans have the ability to absorb radiation. Shouldn't they be able to absorb green lantern constructs? Aren't they supposed to be made of light?

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    You could arguable make a pseydo-sciency reason why.

    Top of my head:
    They aren't exactly light, but visual constructs made out of will,fear etc.
    Its concentrated solid light, which would be difficult to absorb, considering the density such a construct would have (again pseydo-science).

    Real reason, applying real science breaks these heroes apart and it is an endless rabbit hole no one should get into. Its the one advantage "magic" heroes have over science based ones. The fans can easily accept the magic part but science is something tangible with actual rules.

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    Pretty much magic.

    Somehow a manifested will instead of being a light product powered by will. We've seen Superman interact with it by boosting the output with his own will or actually absorb the ring through will.
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    Superman doesn't absorb lasers either, they hit him as hard as they hit anything else. I think it's pretty consistent that lantern constructs exist the same way.

    Keep in mind, Superman's solar powers are a plot device to explain why he's strong and flies and can see through things. His powers aren't actually designed around them.
    I do gotta say though, I wonder if someone like Apollo or the Ray could absorb a Lantern construct. Probably not!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adekis View Post
    Superman doesn't absorb lasers either, they hit him as hard as they hit anything else. I think it's pretty consistent that lantern constructs exist the same way.

    Keep in mind, Superman's solar powers are a plot device to explain why he's strong and flies and can see through things. His powers aren't actually designed around them.
    I do gotta say though, I wonder if someone like Apollo or the Ray could absorb a Lantern construct. Probably not!
    Then why does he need the explanation? Just say this, if it's that thoughtless

    Jokes aside, he has started using radiation based powers like solar flare. Even laser vision and xray can be connected to his ability to absorb radiation. It also seems to give superman faster healing factor.

    people said, lantern constructs are made of light. I know it’s "magic". But, it's classified as science for now. So, superman should be able to eat it up like a plant. In fact, kryptonians should be lanterns natural enemy. I wonder if superman can absorb gamma radiation?

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    Kryptonians absorb specific wavelengths of light to gain power. They don't just absorb light to fuel themselves or else under a red sun they would be able to manifest superpowers just by waiting long enough to absorb sufficient amounts of light. Or they could go into an intensely bright room on a planet like Krypton.

    So if they can't absorb ordinary light why would they be any better at absorbing energy constructs that are not just light. And to reverse the question why wouldn't Hal Jordan just be able to recharge his ring using a yellow star or an x-ray machine or whatever energy source you are assuming a Kryptonian would use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Clark View Post
    Kryptonians absorb specific wavelengths of light to gain power. They don't just absorb light to fuel themselves or else under a red sun they would be able to manifest superpowers just by waiting long enough to absorb sufficient amounts of light. Or they could go into an intensely bright room on a planet like Krypton.

    So if they can't absorb ordinary light why would they be any better at absorbing energy constructs that are not just light. And to reverse the question why wouldn't Hal Jordan just be able to recharge his ring using a yellow star or an x-ray machine or whatever energy source you are assuming a Kryptonian would use?
    Actually, what that wavelength is'nt specified. Furthermore, superman seem to draw higher frequency radiations like from bigger stars to get more abilities like blue stars, quisars... Etc. See,the explanation is red sun of Krypton doesn't give out high frequency radiations.(i know its bogus and in accurate. But, in lore consistency doesn't mean scientific fact) . Though kryptonIans absorb it doesn't create the biological reactions required for superman to fly and stuff. It's like boiling point in liquids, a threshold .They absorb ordinary sunlight from our star quite effectively. Infact, ordinary white light causes them to give standard kryptonIan powers. Hal jordan requires green radiation to charge itself. it needs to be split from white light. I believe hal doesn't have the capability to do that. Furthermore, yellow sun radiation is a weakness to green lantern rings. It has been shown many times that green lanterns can't handle yellow and go near yellow sun. So, there is that. And i believe yellow lanterns doesn't have such problems. Infact yellow lantern superman was supercharged by them if i remember correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Clark View Post
    Kryptonians absorb specific wavelengths of light to gain power. They don't just absorb light to fuel themselves or else under a red sun they would be able to manifest superpowers just by waiting long enough to absorb sufficient amounts of light. Or they could go into an intensely bright room on a planet like Krypton.

    So if they can't absorb ordinary light why would they be any better at absorbing energy constructs that are not just light. And to reverse the question why wouldn't Hal Jordan just be able to recharge his ring using a yellow star or an x-ray machine or whatever energy source you are assuming a Kryptonian would use?
    We actually dont know if this is true:

    In the MONARCH STORYLINE we saw CHRIS KENT (EARTH 16) (the bald guy with the red S on the black Shirt) who was able to consciously absorb radiation instead of yellow sunlight..

    So it could be possible that Kryptonians can learn that, since he was able to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterff View Post
    We actually dont know if this is true:

    In the MONARCH STORYLINE we saw CHRIS KENT (EARTH 16) (the bald guy with the red S on the black Shirt) who was able to consciously absorb radiation instead of yellow sunlight..

    So it could be possible that Kryptonians can learn that, since he was able to do it.
    Yellow light is a form of radiation. KryptonIans had the ability to absorb radiation since the sun bathing explanation was put in.(which i despise).

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    Quote Originally Posted by manwhohaseverything View Post
    Yellow light is a form of radiation. KryptonIans had the ability to absorb radiation since the sun bathing explanation was put in.(which i despise).
    In Countdown: Arena
    Monarch put Chris Kent (of Earth 16) and the Superman of Earth 30 and Earth 31 against each other.
    Superman of Earth 30 and Superman of Earth 31 were nearly poisoned by the radiation, but Chris Kent could use it as power source.

    He was able to absorb the radiation which were lethal for other Superman, because he could consciously change....

    This means that Chris Kent (of Earth 16) could probably also use red sun, kryptonite etc. as power source...instead of yellow sun energy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterff View Post
    In Countdown: Arena
    Monarch put Chris Kent (of Earth 16) and the Superman of Earth 30 and Earth 31 against each other.
    Superman of Earth 30 and Superman of Earth 31 were nearly poisoned by the radiation, but Chris Kent could use it as power source.

    He was able to absorb the radiation which were lethal for other Superman, because he could consciously change....

    This means that Chris Kent (of Earth 16) could probably also use red sun, kryptonite etc. as power source...instead of yellow sun energy..
    Red sun is seen in the lore as lower source of energy. How can someone power himself up with it? As for Kryptonite radiation, that's basically like drinking poison. They all have the ability to absorb kryptonite radiation . That particular radiation frequency seems to cause krypotonian cells to die.

    Chris kent of that earth might have had the ability to handle the radiation (at whatever frequency it maybe) .the only reason the other two got sick is because they absorbed radiation that they can't handle. Just like if they absorb kryptonite radiation they will get sick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manwhohaseverything View Post
    Red sun is seen in the lore as lower source of energy. How can someone power himself up with it? As for Kryptonite radiation, that's basically like drinking poison. They all have the ability to absorb kryptonite radiation . That particular radiation frequency seems to cause krypotonian cells to die.

    Chris kent of that earth might have had the ability to the radiation (at whatever frequency it maybe) .the only reason the other two got sick is because they absorbed radiation that they can't handle. Just like if they absorb kryptonite radiation they will get sick.
    This was only an example..
    I found that CHRIS KENT (EARTH 16) can alter the power absorbtion ability consciously.

    I didnt find to what degree, but as far as I understood it, he can empower himself by whatever radiation, because he can alter the ability, while others absorb only yellow/ blue sunlight etc. as power source.

    I dont know if this happened because of his training, meditation etc. (he was raised up in a buddhist monastery)

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    Do Kryptonians have the ability to absorb all types of radiation at the same level of efficiency?

    Maybe they absorb the lantern light in a very slow and inefficient manner and thereby have no immediate effect on the constructs built from it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling View Post
    Do Kryptonians have the ability to absorb all types of radiation at the same level of efficiency?

    Maybe they absorb the lantern light in a very slow and inefficient manner and thereby have no immediate effect on the constructs built from it?
    They have pretty much absorbed high and low frequency radiations. Like getting overcharged by getting close. As said before @adekis,kryptonian sun thing is largely a plot device. Why superman needs it? beats me.

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    Maybe because the same reason he can't absorb red suns energy. Maybe the GL constructs don't generate the enough light/energy to be absorbed by Superman, unless the ring bearer uses his ring to create something to genereate such light.
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