The End of a Villain?

[Ascended]

Love the idea of the thread.

So, my ideal "end of" the Joker is tied to my ideal end for Batman. For me, Batman dies relatively young. He dies saving a random family from a random mugger in crime alley, and he does it not as Batman but as Bruce Wayne. But somehow, like in a bad romance movie, the moment Batman dies, Joker knows.

And with Batman gone...Joker goes on a straight up rampage, and immediately burns half of Gotham...but there's just no fun in it anymore. Nobody can stop him, Gotham is his, and he just...gets bored, and suddenly walks off. Never to be seen again.

When Joker dies, he's an old, old man whose body gave out on him long ago and his mind halfway has, and all his many, many attempts at suicide have somehow failed (but in comedic ways, like what Joker thought was poison gas was really just mislabeled perfume), and he can't even remember what laughing is like. Since Batman died, it's been the universe that has done the laughing, and he's the butt of the joke. He dies alone, with no one to know or mourn.

To the people of Gotham, it seems that Batman and the Joker both died in a climactic battle during Joker's rampage, and urban legends about what it must have been like grow like mushrooms. No legend ever mentions Batman dying by a random, lucky bullet in a back alley, or Joker dying of old age....a sad final joke.

[Flash Gordon]

The Riddler retires, buys a nice little house upstate. Becomes a homesteader.

Oswald Copplepot becomes a senator and fits right in, not allowing any progressive legislation to pass his desk. He finds himself, for the first time in his life, in the company of like minded people.

The Joker is killed by his own henchmen.

[Osiris-Rex]

Going along that line:

Scarecrow moves to California and opens a boutique marijuana dispensary.

Two Face visits a plastic surgeon, gets his face repaired, and opens up his own law firm specializing in cases involving super villains.

Mr. Freeze finds a cure for his wife and they buy a home in the suburbs, have children, and later on become grandparents.

Kite Man starts a business teaching people how to hang glide.

[batnbreakfast]

Going along that line:

Scarecrow moves to California and opens a boutique marijuana dispensary.

Two Face visits a plastic surgeon, gets his face repaired, and opens up his own law firm specializing in cases involving super villains.

Mr. Freeze finds a cure for his wife and they buy a home in the suburbs, have children, and later on become grandparents.

Kite Man starts a business teaching people how to hang glide.

All that happiness... what's wrong with you ;-))

[Gotham citizen]

Going along that line:

Scarecrow moves to California and opens a boutique marijuana dispensary; the following day the boutique marijuana dispensaries will been declared illegal.

Two Face visits a plastic surgeon, but the surgeon had a nervous breakdown and instead to repair the left half of Harvey Dent's face of Harvey, he will destroy the right one.

Mr. Freeze finds a cure for his wife and they buy a home in the suburbs, have children, and later on become grandparents; then he will find out he isn't the real father of his children.

Kite Man starts a business teaching people how to hang glide, only to be put in jail after the dead of three his students.

Fixed.
Yes, I'm a bad person.

[Agent Z]

Joker is killed by a random "nobody".

[Flash Gordon]

Joker is killed by a random "nobody".

Yeah, that works.

I can't believe we're sharing a common idea, crazy times!

[Mutant God]

Some ideas I have:

Joker is killed by Batman after Joker once again kills Jason Todd or another Robin and Bruce decides to retire.

Penguin is killed by one of his henchmen or a guy pretending to be Penguin's son who later calls himself Penguin and takes over the gang.

Clayface pretends to be a hero and gets killed by a powerful villain

Multiple Arkham inmates gets gassed in their cells by James Gordon Jr. telling his father that these monsters are not going to change

The Riddle becomes a snooty professor at a some big university

[godisawesome]

Two-Face - “Cured,” but in a long, painful process where Harvey has to embrace the fact his dark side is a part of him. When he manages to be found sane, he then plead a guilty to a slew of his crimes, and is only released from prison decades later, after being on his best behavior and working from behind bars to help however he can.

Penguin - Eventually becomes a City Councilman in his twilight years, as his long tenure as a “legitimate businessman” manages to payoff just enough to get him elected in a politically charged part of the city. Is a de facto “Big Bad” during these years, but Gotham is emerging into a cleaner period, and when he is diagnosed with lung cancer, he is also finally found out and convicted for a crime, and dies early into his prison sentence.

Riddler - Manages to finally, perfectly manage the line between his ambition and insanity long enough to become a rational mastermind for a few years... before plain old fashioned arrogance on his part makes him cross an also aged but still more dangerous Bane, who kills him swiftly and brutally.

Poison Ivy - eventually becomes the main part of a new Swamp Thing-esque Green Elemental, with the twist being that she finds herself desiring her humanity back afterwards, but being cognizant enough to know she’s unworthy of either her humanity or her position. More of a background figure as Gaia’s Vengeance, but more even tempered and controlled than she was as a supervillain. Thing more like a Fair Folk Queen of the Green.

Mad Hatter - achieves enough sanity to live out the rest of his days at a care home, where he regimentally takes his medicine, undergoes his therapy, and works quietly but craftily on trying to find more human applications for his knowledge while trying to stay a step ahead of people who want its original schematics.

Bane - Has one final battle with Batman, when he knows he’s on his last legs before crippling addiction, injuries, and other assorted issues kick in, as he tries to secure the Lazarus Pit under Gotham. He loses the final fight, and was fighting with a death wish at the time, and is thus horrified when he ends up int he Batman Beyond status of being a near-vegetable in need of a constant supply of Venom as he just sits and watches the days go by.

Ra’s Al Ghul - Gets fed up with his children and other presumptive heroes, so he clones himself (like the one from the Legion of Superheroes), except the clone, even when granted Ra’s memories, maintains enough will and self-independence to reject his progenitor’s plans and vision, ironically ending Ra’s organization by going off on his own quest of self-discovery after the original finally dies of old age.

Joker - simply disappears after one clash with Batman, with the implication that his apparent death this time was, for once, the real deal. Still, there’s an uneasiness about his disappearance that haunts the city, leading to the formation of the Jokerz gang as some, preferably some disaffected-yet-affluent turds take his image for their own usage. I like the idea of it being a more “preppy” gang in terms of social class, mostly for the reversal of the idea fo a true street gang and the idea of Joker being revolutionary.

[Confuzzled]

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This is as perfect a send-off as it gets for Freeze.

[K. Jones]

I always like a villain to get the full karma treatment.

So like, Ra's al Ghul is all dosed up with immortality, but ages horribly, becoming completely unable to function, nobody listens to him, his charisma, leadership and virility are all gone, he's just old and useless and can't die or even communicate effectively to scheme, a prisoner in his own unkillable body.

I thought Bane was done perfectly in Batman Beyond - bound to a wheel-chair in a convalescent home, dry as a bone.

Doctor Dedalus is ostensibly a sort of "this should be a cautionary tale for the Riddler" situation. He's a very Riddler-esque thinker, so almost works as a "Riddler gets old and gets dementia" analogue. With a Nazi bent, of course, but the comparison would be there.

[Frontier]

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This is as perfect a send-off as it gets for Freeze.

Yeah, the only ending for Freeze is dying knowing he saved Nora and that she has a chance at happiness, even if it's without him.

(And it also sets his wife up to become a villain out of revenge)

[Ascended]

Yeah, the only ending for Freeze is dying knowing he saved Nora and that she has a chance at happiness, even if it's without him.

(And it also sets his wife up to become a villain out of revenge)

Saw this clip last night. Great ending. Very appropriate for Freeze.

I love the idea of Penguin going into politics too.....but gods it makes me sad to think that Cobblepot would find successful in the public sector like that. Still, he'd probably do very well for himself in Washington. The question is whether Bruce would still care; if Gotham is his mission and Penguin is out of Gotham, does that mean Bats leaves him alone, or does Batman keep chasing him beyond the city?

[godisawesome]

Saw this clip last night. Great ending. Very appropriate for Freeze.

I love the idea of Penguin going into politics too.....but gods it makes me sad to think that Cobblepot would find successful in the public sector like that. Still, he'd probably do very well for himself in Washington. The question is whether Bruce would still care; if Gotham is his mission and Penguin is out of Gotham, does that mean Bats leaves him alone, or does Batman keep chasing him beyond the city?

Y’know, there was a time when Cobblepott For Mayor or Elect Lex we’re wild, over-the-top plotlines that we’re written as examples of villains using their incredible cunning and manipulative skills to secure the job, under the idea that no one could be both that blatantly immoral *and* stupid and win the election; that you’d have to be smart, at minimum.

...I miss those days, because now you could have Penguin run for office, win, and not even really try to hide that he’s a supervillain, and most of the audience wouldn’t even blink.