Tifa Lockhart VS Tendo Akane

[Kuro]

Tifa takes on Akane.

Who wins?

Fight takes place in the dojo.

No materia for Tifa

[jetengine]

Tifa has better feats iirc.

[Jackalope89]

I honestly don't know much about Tifa. As for Akane, while certainly quite strong compared to regular people, she was outclassed by Ranma, Ryoga, and other heavy hitters of the Ranma franchise (which is a more "down to Earth" in terms of power scaling compared to other such series). What's more, she's fast, but not super human fast. She has super strength (ripped the bars off her prison in the final arc, for example), decent intelligence, but her main thing is her brute strength. Which doesn't compare to the likes of Ranma and Ryoga (who's even stronger than Ranma).

[The Drunkard Kid]

I honestly don't know much about Tifa. As for Akane, while certainly quite strong compared to regular people, she was outclassed by Ranma, Ryoga, and other heavy hitters of the Ranma franchise (which is a more "down to Earth" in terms of power scaling compared to other such series). What's more, she's fast, but not super human fast. She has super strength (ripped the bars off her prison in the final arc, for example), decent intelligence, but her main thing is her brute strength. Which doesn't compare to the likes of Ranma and Ryoga (who's even stronger than Ranma).

While she's definitely bottom tier in Ranma's circles, Akane is still fast to turn around and catch multiple arrows at once, after they were fired at her from a high angle (so they were also assisted by gravity), on one staff. She also was winning a race that involved multiple motorized vehicles with just a normal skateboard (though Ranma and Shampoo were leaving her in their dust by a huge margin whenever they weren't getting sidetracked). She also counted Ranma's 500+ strikes against Mikado Sanzenin in real time (which he performed so fast that no one else even saw that he was throwing those punches since Ranma was caught in the middle of Sanzenin's own super speed Dance of Death attack at the time), though it was more explicit in the anime than it was in the manga.

Also, excepting some (EDIT: one-shot) power ups/power downs, Ranma is usual portrayed as being dead even with Ryouga in terms of strength, both when directly fighting one another and with their respective high end feats, just with a lot more control so he's not going to accidentally do damage to things.

That being said, I'm not sure what Tifa's non-gameplay feats are in the remake or the original game, though she's definitely more impressive when it comes to jumping and throwing people than both Akane and the PS1 version of herself in Advent Children, with the implication that she, and everyone else on the team, used to be at least nominally on Advent Children Cloud's bullet-swatting/office-building-bisecting tier by the end of the original game, which is well out of Akane's level.

[The MunchKING]

She also was winning a race that involved multiple motorized vehicles with just a normal skateboard (though Ranma and Shampoo were leaving her in their dust by a huge margin whenever they weren't getting sidetracked).

FF7 guys can run around the world in mere minutes. The overworld map is definitely some incarnation of a gameplay mechanic though.

[The Drunkard Kid]

FF7 guys can run around the world in mere minutes. The overworld map is definitely some incarnation of a gameplay mechanic though.

Man, world map shenanigans get *weird*. Like in Takes off the Abyss, the North and South poles somehow ended up being right next to each other.

[Len Ikari145]

While she's definitely bottom tier in Ranma's circles, Akane is still fast to turn around and catch multiple arrows at once, after they were fired at her from a high angle (so they were also assisted by gravity), on one staff. She also was winning a race that involved multiple motorized vehicles with just a normal skateboard (though Ranma and Shampoo were leaving her in their dust by a huge margin whenever they weren't getting sidetracked). She also counted Ranma's 500+ strikes against Mikado Sanzenin in real time (which he performed so fast that no one else even saw that he was throwing those punches since Ranma was caught in the middle of Sanzenin's own super speed Dance of Death attack at the time), though it was more explicit in the anime than it was in the manga.

Also, excepting some rest power ups/power downs, Ranma is usual portrayed as being dead even with Ryouga in terms of strength, both when directly fighting one another and with their respective high end feats, just with a lot more control so he's not going to accidentally do damage to things.

That being said, I'm not sure what Tifa's non-gameplay feats are in the remake or the original game, though she's definitely more impressive when it comes to jumping and throwing people than both Akane and the PS1 version of herself in Advent Children, with the implication that she, and everyone else on the team, used to be at least nominally on Advent Children Cloud's bullet-swatting/office-building-bisecting tier by the end of the original game, which is well out of Akane's level.

Currently, FFVII:R Tifa aka early Tifa is capable of punching and kicking through large portions of concrete and is shown to be faster than Cloud(to note, Cloud is already at the "I cut through large chunks of debris and buildings, and deflect/dodge automatic gunfire" level shown in Advent Children, while demonstrating Bleach-style flashsteps near the end of his boss battle with Sephiroth).

[Kirika]

Does anyone consider tifa's gameplay feats canon to her abilities in the story? If you do you also have to think of at just what point is the Tifa in the thread/game from, is she at the end of the story, the beginning, the middle or somewhere else? How many you think the whole matter of leveling up and liimts breaks to be something to take into account here?

Idea: How about about the version in the cg movie is discussed? What are the movie Tifa's odds of winning against Akane

[The Drunkard Kid]

Does anyone consider tifa's gameplay feats canon to her abilities in the story? If you do you also have to think of at just what point is the Tifa in the thread/game from, is she at the end of the story, the beginning, the middle or somewhere else? How many you think the whole matter of leveling up and liimts breaks to be something to take into account here?

Idea: How about about the version in the cg movie is discussed? What are the movie Tifa's odds of winning against Akane

Advent Children Tifa (and everyone else in the party that wasn't Cloud) was apparently far from peak performance, and I don't think that she did much in her fight with... Loz, I think his name was?... that was particularly beyond Akane's performance in her fight with the Dojo Destroyer.

That being said, I think that her jump and toss of Cloud during the fight against Bahamut SIN was more impressive than Akane's abilities in that front are generally depicted (not counting gag scenes where she oneshots Ranma or punts people ridiculous distances), but I don't think we were actually see where Tifa jumped *from*, considering that Cloud needed multiple people to launch him to get to the point that Tifa intercepted him at. ISTR Akane doing some pretty decent superhuman leaps when dealing with the Yamata no Orochi, so even that part might not be particularly beyond her, depending on where Tifa started from.

[Steel Inquisitor]

Here's Tifa's fight with Loz.

[Oswin]

Story-wise the 3 people faster then Cloud are Sephiroth, Reno and Tifa. When cloud swung his sword at Reno he just ran over it with ease, and for most of the fight he showed he could dodge him easily most of the time.

Then again, while he is faster, it's not to the point that he can blitz him, hell he still couldn't lay a hand on Cloud. While Reno was easily dodging him, cloud could still react to Reno's attacks, and block em, and at the end Reno still got beaten pretty badly....could be the reason Tifa and Reno are faster is just that Cloud is lugging around a huge ass metal sword..

Same with Seph, Cloud can hang with em all though seph is faster.

[Jackalope89]

While she's definitely bottom tier in Ranma's circles, Akane is still fast to turn around and catch multiple arrows at once, after they were fired at her from a high angle (so they were also assisted by gravity), on one staff. She also was winning a race that involved multiple motorized vehicles with just a normal skateboard (though Ranma and Shampoo were leaving her in their dust by a huge margin whenever they weren't getting sidetracked). She also counted Ranma's 500+ strikes against Mikado Sanzenin in real time (which he performed so fast that no one else even saw that he was throwing those punches since Ranma was caught in the middle of Sanzenin's own super speed Dance of Death attack at the time), though it was more explicit in the anime than it was in the manga.

Also, excepting some (EDIT: one-shot) power ups/power downs, Ranma is usual portrayed as being dead even with Ryouga in terms of strength, both when directly fighting one another and with their respective high end feats, just with a lot more control so he's not going to accidentally do damage to things.

That being said, I'm not sure what Tifa's non-gameplay feats are in the remake or the original game, though she's definitely more impressive when it comes to jumping and throwing people than both Akane and the PS1 version of herself in Advent Children, with the implication that she, and everyone else on the team, used to be at least nominally on Advent Children Cloud's bullet-swatting/office-building-bisecting tier by the end of the original game, which is well out of Akane's level.

For Ranma and Ryouga; usually Ryouga is the power guy (being described as a bull in a china shop is the understatement of the century), most of it coming from his training in various construction techniques that hardened his body. Ranma on the other hand has been more about speed. Not to say Ryouga is slow or that Ranma is weak, but their talents do go into those two directions.

[The Drunkard Kid]

For Ranma and Ryouga; usually Ryouga is the power guy (being described as a bull in a china shop is the understatement of the century), most of it coming from his training in various construction techniques that hardened his body. Ranma on the other hand has been more about speed. Not to say Ryouga is slow or that Ranma is weak, but their talents do go into those two directions.

That's the fanon, not the canon. In the actual series, barring specific temporary power ups/power downs, the only time anyone said anything about Ranma being physically weaker than Ryouga was with regards to Ranma's explicitly weaker girl form, and s/he then proceeded to casually deflect, catch, and use Ryouga's super heavy umberalla pretty much immediately after that comment was made by Akane, who in wasn't even able to pick up said umbrella despite her own superhuman strength.

Whenever they fight, they are each able to casually catch one another's strikes, grapple on even terms, and all of Ryouga's best strength feats has something as good or better in Ranma's own list of feats. Heck, in one case, Ranma was actually treading water in his girl form (after being hit so hard that her joints were popping whenever she tried to move for awhile after) and *******ing the weight of Ryouga and the massive ice chunks he was smooshing Mikado Sanzenin between because Ryouga had been standing on her head *in ice skates* at the time (I think that Azusa Shiratori was also hanging off of Ryouga at the time as well).

And in all fairness to Ryouga, he's also pretty much do with Ranma in terms of running speed and agility (which makes sense, considering how he's always traveling to ridiculous locations on foot and was also the one who "trained" Ranma in Martial Arts Rhythmic Gymnastics), though he never really caught up in terms of reflex speed after Ranma's Kachuu Tenshin Amaguriken training, even though he definitely shows the occasional relatively impressive feat on that front, too. Similarly, Ranma never showed the durability that Ryouga gained in the Bakusai Tenketsu arc (though honestly, Ryouga was never depicted that doable ever again either, unless Ranma got hundreds of times stronger off screen right after that arc), though his durability is still stupidly impressive.

[Kuro]

I dunno.

Ryoga rapidly poking Akane's name in giant characters into a boulder while training for the Breaking point is pretty damn comparable to the Amaguri Ken technique imo.

[The Drunkard Kid]

I dunno.

Ryoga rapidly poking Akane's name in giant characters into a boulder while training for the Breaking point is pretty damn comparable to the Amaguri Ken technique imo.

Not really, considering that the entire arc began with Ranma, post-Amaguriken training, casually dodging around Ryouga's strikes while balancing a fishbowl and then literally tying Ryouga into a knot faster than he could react, and ended with Ranma casually catching all the shrapnel heading his way from Ryouga's explosions and being able to land hundreds of punches on Ryouga so fast that the latter could only see it as one strike.

Heck, *before* the Amaguriken training, when their speed was much more even (though Ranma still came across as being notably faster), Ranma was able to do things like poke an insult into Kuno's head using bruises while falling towards him, land 9-12 kicks to Kuno's vitals so fast that it looked like one kick while in the middle of dodging Kuno's superspeed barrage, or striking Mikado Sanzenin 500+ times while being ragdolled by Mikado's own superspeed attack (because Ranma could barely even stand up on ice at that point) so fast that no one but Akane (not even Azusa Shiratori, his partner who had *just* shown that she was fast enough to keep pace with Mikado as the two of them 100 hockey players in 10 seconds) even saw that he was attacking at all.