All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[JCAll]

I agree with this. Biden could have helped the Senate campaigns a bit here getting digs in more clearly and strongly that trump literally flip flopped on no more aid at all, well ok some aid. To undercutting Mnuchin during the negotiations. He actually could have gotten trump to undercut him again on stage possibly. Hammer home the GOP under Mitch moves like lightning for a judge appointment but they didn't do anything more on aid till they saw the polls everywhere not favoring them on Covid response

It seems like Biden still naively thinks he can work with the Senate GOP where everyone else has failed.
I think that plan is doomed, and he'll get slapped out of that nonsense sooner or later.

[kidfresh512]

It seems like Biden still naively thinks he can work with the Senate GOP where everyone else has failed.
I think that plan is doomed, and he'll get slapped out of that nonsense sooner or later.

Agreed. Its fine to say politically for him. I think it works in terms of getting swing state voters and republicans that are disgusted by Trump to vote for him. It is partially the reason that the trump campaign throwing how radical lefty he is doesn't stick. But in practice and actual governance to believe it will actually work is silly. I feel the same about him thinking about GOP for potential cabinet seats as well. Fine to say but absolutely not imo, if there is a better qualified Democrat.

[Steel Inquisitor]

It seems like Biden still naively thinks he can work with the Senate GOP where everyone else has failed.
I think that plan is doomed, and he'll get slapped out of that nonsense sooner or later.

That's not something he's allowed to say in public, even if he agreed with it. Because millions of people need to believe the government can work for the Democrats to get a chance to govern.

[ChangingStation]

Ah, I see.

Yeah, there aren't a lot of undecideds out there to nab.

Trump's more likely to get election day voters than Biden has had luck with early voters. And had Trump not cleared the incredibly low bar of "better than last time", I think they might have thrown the towel in on him and not shown up to vote for him.

Which, for Trump, I believe it's a lost cause at this point with eleven days to go. But if his voters stay home and don't bother? That would have been a killing blow to a lot of GOP Senate candidates and other Republicans down ballot.

Eh. They'd have voted regardless. Let's not forget how riled up Trump tried to make everyone.

Anyway, as for the Undecided Voters, Trump's behaviour might have appeared some of them, but just as many likely do not care and are going for Biden. 2016 was as much an outlier as has been commented many times.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

It seems like Biden still naively thinks he can work with the Senate GOP where everyone else has failed.
I think that plan is doomed, and he'll get slapped out of that nonsense sooner or later.

Yeah, that perplexes me. For eight years Biden watched Barack Obama extend a hand across the aisle to Republicans in good faith for the sake of bipartisan cooperation, only to have it bitten time after time after time by the rabid dogs in the GOP. If Trump goes down next month, that intransigence from Republicans will be even worse for no reason other than sheer spite because Trump lost. And here's an important reminder, it's not just about the presidency, the Senate is up for grabs, as I've said here numerous times, Biden winning the election would be almost meaningless if Democrats lose the Senate and Necrotic Mitch continues being that human roadblock where bills go to die.

[PaulBullion]

I just will never accept Accelerationism as a worthwhile political philosophy. It's never been anything more than genocidal nihilism mixed with revenge porn. Actually, what it really reminds me of most is the Pat Robertson-esque Evangelicals. The kind of people who openly want to being about the End of Days, for no better reason they they believe the world is irredeemable and enjoy the thought of everyone who isn't them burning in Hell. How it's becoming a major movement I have no idea...

This is very well put.

[PaulBullion]

Some, sure. You can't expect every supporter of a wildly unpopular President to be vocal about it, though.

Did 2018 indicated that he has shy supporters?

[Mister Mets]

The policy from Trump, Miller and Sessions was meant to be cruel to deter people.
That you agree with this barbarism is immoral.
Your calm acceptance of the inhumane is so typical of Republicans.
You continue to defend the indefensible.

I don't agree with the barbarism. I have personally suggested alternatives (more immigration judges to handle the caseload, a more efficient screening process for asylum hearings.)

But in order to say that the Republican plan is unacceptable, I need to know what the Democratic plan is, because they don't seem interested in fixing the problem.

We can put them in cages on the border. According to Mets that's OK unless you have a better policy.

By this logic, you're OK with rewarding people for endangering their children, and having that incentive going forward.

Taken to the logical extreme, anyone who supports pretty much any policy is OK with tremendous death and suffering (if the national speed limit was 20, we would certainly have less fatal accidents; it's probably not worth the tradeoff, but that's a discussion that can't be had if the need for a better policy alternative is dismissed.)

It really shouldn't be that hard to have a better policy here. So, what is being suggested?

Yeah, that perplexes me. For eight years Biden watched Barack Obama extend a hand across the aisle to Republicans in good faith for the sake of bipartisan cooperation, only to have it bitten time after time after time by the rabid dogs in the GOP. If Trump goes down next month, that intransigence from Republicans will be even worse for no reason other than sheer spite because Trump lost. And here's an important reminder, it's not just about the presidency, the Senate is up for grabs, As I've said here numerous times, Biden winning the election would be almost meaningless if Democrats lose the Senate and Necrotic Mitch continues being that human roadblock where bills go to die.

Given that Biden was a member in the Obama administration, I'm guessing he saw missed opportunities and times President Obama, elected to the White House as one of the least experienced presidents ever, could have done better.

[PaulBullion]

Let's have more anti-Biden posts from "Biden voters". Yeah, that's the ticket. Especially using a story from the NY Post and hand in pants Guiliani that is so embarrassing in it's untruthfulness that one of the reports asked to be removed from the byline.
But HUNTER BIDEN is the big issue.

Meanwhile Trump has a secret Chinese bank account and the families of over 500 children they kidnapped cannot be found.
But Democratic corruption must be the topic here.

Sad.

It's almost like they think we are too dumb to understand the concept of "concern trolling."

[PaulBullion]

Looks like he was on IVs recently, so probably getting prophylactic antibody treatment for COVID, I'd wager. That said, there are lots of other legitimate reasons some in his age range could have to be on IVs.

He also has bruises on his upper lip and a thick layer of makeup which might cover up more bruises or scratches.

[ChangingStation]

Also, Fox snap poll shows Trump won. Of course, it is an outlier and unlike regular polls I have no idea how snap polls are taken.

[PaulBullion]

Also, Fox snap poll shows Trump won. Of course, it is an outlier and unlike regular polls I have no idea how snap polls are taken.

Wasn't this just from Lou Dobbs' twitter account, frequented by many international tweeters?

[The Chou Lives]

Wasn't this just from Lou Dobbs' twitter account, frequented by many international tweeters?

Yeah. Because the **** I have seen from
The inter net is at this point the most positive Trumpers are..

MAGA Cult
People who do not live in America

[ChangingStation]

Wasn't this just from Lou Dobbs' twitter account, frequented by many international tweeters?

Isaac Douvere. And apparently an online survey. But I get your point, the only trustworthy source on Fox are the Polls themselves.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Perhaps the biggest blow to Trump's Hunter Biden debacle happened before and after the debate. As Politico explains Hunter Biden basically won the debate.

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/20...-debate-431558


Now here is THE BIG DEAL folks. After Trump paraded this guy in front of the media , when it came time after everything....it was a colossal fucking lie.

But so far the Bobulinski allegations seem like bubkes. At 10:47, minutes after the debate ended, the Wall Street Journal, part of the same media empire as Fox News and the Post, reported, “Text messages and emails related to the venture that were provided to the Journal by Mr. Bobulinski, mainly from the spring and summer of 2017, don’t show either Hunter Biden or James Biden” — the former vice president’s brother — “discussing a role for Joe Biden in the venture.”

Even if Bobulinski is telling the truth, that Joe Biden knew about the China enterprise, it’s not clear what the scandal is — he was a private citizen at the time and not yet running for president. Trump has elevated an unsubstantiated assertion that Biden had knowledge about his son’s legal and failed business venture to a “crime” for which he “should be in jail.” To put in context how absurd this allegation is, one of the first things George W. Bush did after he left the White House was deliver a paid speech in China. Somehow he remains at large.

Now either he conned Trump into this or Trump basically knew this was bullshit. This casts doubt even more over the entire Hunter Biden deal if someone like this can appear , claim he has evidence and when looked at...has nothing.