All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[Spike-X]

I'll note that I asked you for proof of what you wrote earlier and you disregarded that - so I will assume that you basically completely made up that the claims done by Shamirun Nessa have all been debunked

Assume whatever you like, I really don't give a ****.

Going by this one article I found, though, it seems she was deliberately twisting and misinterpreting a lot of things in order to fit a certain narrative. Maybe you could ask yourself why you were so eager to push that false narrative on here.

[Spike-X]

You just go to the DMV. It's not hard at all.

Whenever you feel compelled to start a piece of advice with the words, "You just..." you might want to consider that what you're about to suggest isn't as simple for everyone as you're about to make it sound, and that there are aspects you may not be aware of/haven't considered.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Whenever you feel compelled to start a piece of advice with the words, "You just..." you might want to consider that what you're about to suggest isn't as simple for everyone as you're about to make it sound, and that there are aspects you may not be aware of/haven't considered.

F**king seriously.

How much of the US population lives pay check to paycheck?

[numberthirty]

Past any of that...

Seems like this tangent is going on the assumption that any regular "Working Class..."/"Paycheck To Paycheck..." person is about to vote for either a Democrat or a Republican as opposed to just deciding not to vote.

Even if "Voter ID..." friendly IDs were being delivered right to their front doors...

[shooshoomanjoe]

F**king seriously.

How much of the US population lives pay check to paycheck?

Life is a game with a set of rules (at least in the west). You follow the rules and you'll have an ok life. Part of the rules is to get a skill that'll pay you a living wage.

[skyvolt2000]

I know public transportation sucks, my son tells me often. But it's still there and you'll still get to your location.

If I wanted to go to a certain comic book stores (that has since moved to a WORST location for buses) that was a 7 hour trip. Catch bus 1 at 9 AM, Bus 2 at 10, ate at Whatburger or shopped at Target until Noon (comic book store opens). Catch the 2 (because there was a 1 hour wait) and then catch 3 o'clock and walk 15 minutes home.

And some buses do not run on the weekends. There were a BUNCH of folks who could not go anywhere because the buses didn't run on weekends or worst you had a 2-3 hour wait between them. The northern and business sector of my city suffered from this.

As far as DMV scarcity, those are mainly in rural areas aren't they? If the GOP want to screw their voters then let them.

At least in Texas every city had at least ONE. The rural ones had one and some are merged with other places like the Sheriff's office.

I would suspect those are better staffed than the urban ones.

I live near a HUGE one. Funny out of the 50 customer service stations it has only 10 are ever active.

The court house is down the street and it's FASTER to get permits than a driver license. That only has 5 customer service slots.

In Texas it's now by appointment only and depending on the location-you had to book months in advance.

I've been to the DMV several times and yes, they can take hours even with an appointment but you can still get your ID.

One issue that Kirby101 pointed out...

What way are there to get an ID when you have NONE of the items they are asking for? Because in the past you did NOT need those items.
Here is a food for thought-not everyone has a birth certificate. Because they NEVER had one.

I know of one and it's been a now 3 year battle. The STATE says no birth certificate exists. Family who works in those departments that deal with birth certificate-can't find one.
This is a family member and he's the same age as Sir Patrick Stewart.

[numberthirty]

Life is a game with a set of rules (at least in the west). You follow the rules and you'll have an ok life. Part of the rules is to get a skill that'll pay you a living wage.

Politely?

The jury is still out on that one...

[The Cool Thatguy]

Life is a game with a set of rules (at least in the west). You follow the rules and you'll have an ok life. Part of the rules is to get a skill that'll pay you a living wage.

...you do know that the West isn't the entirety of the United States, right?

Also, if a job has to be done, explain to me why it shouldn't pay a living wage?

[skyvolt2000]

Life is a game with a set of rules (at least in the west). You follow the rules and you'll have an ok life. Part of the rules is to get a skill that'll pay you a living wage.

Not always true.

You got folks with those skills and still get the door slammed in their face.

That has been the problem.

Along with folks LOOKING for CHEAP labor which is why we have the immigration issues mainly in South.

Companies want cheap labor and bypass many who have the skills.

And that is NOT counting racism and sexism and self hate.

F**king seriously.

How much of the US population lives pay check to paycheck?

Probably 90% of the USA.

However most are not at that level because of where they live, what state they are in and other factors.

[shooshoomanjoe]

...you do know that the West isn't the entirety of the United States, right?

Also, if a job has to be done, explain to me why it shouldn't pay a living wage?

Jobs should pay a living wage but again, we live in the world as it is not as we wish it to be.

[Malvolio]

Life is a game with a set of rules (at least in the west). You follow the rules and you'll have an ok life. Part of the rules is to get a skill that'll pay you a living wage.

But often, just when you're about to finally make it, they change the rules. There are also all sorts of double standards that enforce the rules more for one group than another.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Disney's lawyers are famous...they are fabled for the fact they are the best. They are licking their chops as the state will be forced to spend millions of dollars now to fight this. Even the newspaper is hinting that this will cost the state millions of dollars ahead in legal fight.

I’m guessing DeSantis doesn’t give a damn about legal costs. In my opinion, he has no choice but to fight Disney, if he loses this battle in his culture war, other losses would almost certainly follow and he becomes a toothless tiger, hurting his chances in next year’s presidential race, should he throw his hat in the ring.

[Mister Mets]

When I went to renew my license last year, when I got the paper in the mail indicating I could finally do it, appointments were booked up months in advance way past my expiration date, I had to walk in and wait all morning, and this was in a well off area.

Improving the DMV is important even if you don't think it's the best place to provide ID for voters.

Quite a different system vs. the US, but in most European countries a student ID is not accepted as a valid form of voting ID (not saying that what the GOP is trying to do in Idaho and in other places is correct)

A lot of the arguments about voting rights are divorced from context. Democrats are typically much more in favor of people voting in the general election as easily as possible, which is a defensible position, but some of the rhetoric doesn't match the policy preference. They'll support plans that are unpopular, like removing any requirements for photo ID. There would also be an easy solution to just make it easier for people to get their hands on Photo ID.

It seems that the argument about voter ID are ultimately about a difference of a percent or two in close races. That can matter (Katie Hobbs won the governorship of Arizona 50.3% to 49.6%) but the main advantage in this as an issue is in messaging, both to convince Democrats to follow procedures carefully, and to convince swing voters the evil Republicans are trying to make it harder for them.

A major unresolved issue with college students voting is that we haven't really come to any consistent policy about where people with multiple claims to residency should vote. This is the case with particular college students who have their residence at home, the college they reside at for about half the year in another election district and potentially another claim (IE- if they're going for an internship at the time in another region or residing in a third location while completing a dissertation.) Often they'll pick whichever area has the most competitive election, which is not how local elections are supposed to work.

You take public transportation and ask for time off. People in the west make too many excuses instead of just getting it done.

Some employers don't provide time off.

If the DMV is not in the same town as the campus, and in some counties that is the case, there may not be any public transportation to an from. Maybe a once a day or once every other day bus.
So now you want some poor college kid to go over night to someplace and hope the DMV doesn't throw more hurdles at him.

We recently ran into a problem here in NY. My wife needed to renew her drivers license, and to get the federal approved Real ID, she needed her social security card. The name on her card, that she got when she was 12, decades ago, did not match letter for letter with her license. We needed other ID and had to come back another day. And NY is not trying to stop people from voting.

IT"S NOT EASY!

New York is notorious for making it difficult to vote. For example, to vote in the April 19 2016 Democratic primary, a registered independent had to change their registration by October 2015 when very few people are paying attention. It gets to a rarely articulated argument, that the important thing is always to expand access, rather than to excuse a purple state with Republican leadership in Georgia because in some ways, it might be harder to vote in New York.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2...ws-more-restr/

[Kirby101]

Life is a game with a set of rules (at least in the west). You follow the rules and you'll have an ok life. Part of the rules is to get a skill that'll pay you a living wage.

[Tami]

The Blast Effect: This is how bullets from an AR-15 blow the body apart

Not for the faint of heart.