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    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post

    Here's a GOP state legislator in Tennessee talking about how great the Three Fifths Compromise was
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    In their current iteration, make no mistake, the Republican Party is a white nationalist party with a fascist bent on maintaining their own white supremacy.

    Full stop.
    Wonkette is taking the side of the slaveowners on this one.

    A Tennessee conservative arguing that it's a good thing that the slave-owning South had less political power is hardly an example of white nationalism, fascism or white supremacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    Wonkette is taking the side of the slaveowners on this one.

    A Tennessee conservative arguing that it's a good thing that the slave-owning South had less political power is hardly an example of white nationalism, fascism or white supremacy.
    You realize that the three fifths compromise was still about enshrining extra representation for the slave-holding class, right, and this was agreed to? Good lord, dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    You realize that the three fifths compromise was still about enshrining extra representation for the slave-holding class, right, and this was agreed to? Good lord, dude.
    Without the 3/5 compromise, the Constitution would never have been ratified and the country would likely have been retaken piecemeal by the Imperial Powers. That is the extent of anything positive I can say about it, however. A necessary evil that was required in order to create the country in the first place, whose price would be paid for in blood. The blood of it's victims for an additional 87 years, the blood of those who fought to rectify that injustice (even if that wasn't why the North was fighting initially), and then even more blood as those who lost that war endeavored to make sure Justice was never truly done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    You realize that the three fifths compromise was still about enshrining extra representation for the slave-holding class, right, and this was agreed to? Good lord, dude.
    The Wonkette piece suggests the mistake was in not counting slaves as full people.

    Legally quantifying a human being as less than a full person is "impugning their humanity." That's how fractions work. Impugning is almost too nice a word for it. Impugning sounds like you suggested Black people didn't promptly RSVP to their enslavement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    WSJ Slams GOP Effort To Oust Liz Cheney For ‘Daring To Tell The Truth’

    “GOP leaders shouldn’t have to lie about 2020 to keep their job,” the conservative newspaper’s editorial board said. But, they have, and continue lying like rugs. Meanwhile....

    Kevin McCarthy Caught On Hot Mic Saying He’s ‘Had It’ With Liz Cheney: Report
    There's the old Martin Niemoller adage (which has been linked to a lot of GOP rhetoric the past few years) about, "First they came for the socialists, and I said nothing. Then they came for.... ________"

    The GQP have already moved from target to target in DC to demonize enough after "immigrants", "African Americans" and "women" that they've arrived at the Cheney dynasty. Quite a flip in two decades' time.



    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    Wonkette is taking the side of the slaveowners on this one.
    The absolutely are not, and it's laughable you expect anyone to believe such a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    The Wonkette piece suggests the mistake was in not counting slaves as full people.
    SPOILER ALERT: They WERE full people, Mets. The whole time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    There's the old Martin Niemoller adage (which has been linked to a lot of GOP rhetoric the past few years) about, "First they came for the socialists, and I said nothing. Then they came for.... ________"

    The GQP have already moved from target to target in DC to demonize enough after "immigrants", "African Americans" and "women" that they've arrived at the Cheney dynasty. Quite a flip in two decades' time.
    Much to my surprise, Dastardly Dick Cheney is still among the living (he's 80). I wonder how he's taking to Craven Kevin McCarthy attacking his daughter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    Much to my surprise, Dastardly Dick Cheney is still among the living (he's 80). I wonder how he's taking to Craven Kevin McCarthy attacking his daughter?
    Man, I don't even want to imagine what kinds of darkness lurks in that man's mind. If he's in a good mood, he might just have some friends in the CIA release something embarrassing about him to the press.

    Then again, it's near impossible to threaten Kevin McCarthy with embarrassment, as he is one every time he opens his mouth... so it might not be anything he's threatened by anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    The Wonkette piece suggests the mistake was in not counting slaves as full people.
    It's been many a year since I've visited the Wonkette site, they had as many pop-up ads as Bleeding Cool the last time I was there, but the thing I remember most about the site was that it was firmly on the left and was there pretty much to mock the right in any way possible. I sincerely doubt anyone there (even jokingly) is taking the side of the slaveholders. Honestly, outside of those in the Republican Party pandering to racists in their base I doubt most people would. Perhaps one of the commenters are unfamiliar with the 3/5 compromise and the reasons behind it and just saw that we'd labeled slaves as 3/5 of a human being (while treating them as 0/5 of a human being) and said, "Hey that's pretty messed up." Which I believe is the reaction of most kids in Middle School learning about our history. Perhaps it was a poster from another country, or maybe it was heavy sarcasm, maybe even a troll trying to tweak the regulars. But I guarantee, unless that site's gone Bizarro, nobody was seriously advocating for more power for the slaveholders. Though if I'm wrong, by all means correct me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    Much to my surprise, Dastardly Dick Cheney is still among the living (he's 80). I wonder how he's taking to Craven Kevin McCarthy attacking his daughter?
    I couldn't find a clear article, but from what I gather Dick Cheney backs his daughter in this.
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    Oh, and FaceBook has decided to make Trump's ban permanent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Oh, and FaceBook has decided to make Trump's ban permanent.
    Good. I hope they also continue banning Trump supporters who promote posts of his with lies about election fraud by sharing screencaps or links to his new blog site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Oh, and FaceBook has decided to make Trump's ban permanent.
    Best news I've heard all week. However, I read something that Facebook will re-evaluate Trump's ban six months from now. Can't imagine why, he'll still be ranting and raving come September about how the election was "stolen" from him. Trump will never change, so why bother going through the motion of re-evaluating his fitness to return to Facebook, because he'll NEVER be fit for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    Best news I've heard all week. However, I read something that Facebook will re-evaluate Trump's ban six months from now. Can't imagine why, he'll still be ranting and raving come September about how the election was "stolen" from him. Trump will never change, so why bother going through the motion of re-evaluating his fitness to return to Facebook, because he'll NEVER be fit for that.
    Facebook oversight made the right call.

    I expected them to overturn Trump's ban because of the buildup to the announcement and so on, but now I appreciate the building off false hope in Trumpistas just to twist the knife in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    Facebook oversight made the right call.

    I expected them to overturn Trump's ban because of the buildup to the announcement and so on, but now I appreciate the building off false hope in Trumpistas just to twist the knife in.
    Yeah, but they punted it down the road six months, probably hoping they would be able to quietly(?) reinstate him at that time.

    Say what you want about Twitter and Jack Dorsey, but at least he had the balls to finally kick Trump off for good, and not revisiting the question every few months. Yeah, it took FAR too long for him to get there, but at least he did it. All Zuckerberg did was set up a committee to pass the buck to, and even they won't make a final call.

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