When discussing that election it is important to note that Tilden's electoral votes from the South, as well as his popular vote margin, were illegitimate because of the restrictions on black voters.
Nixon was arguably broken by the experience, which contributed to poor decisions in the 1972 election which led to his resignation.
There is another question of whether it demonstrates integrity to keep a potential crime secret. If there were any fraud, we should welcome the courts investigating it.
Nope.
I have different preferences in terms of which party is going to win, but I do strongly believe the neutral principles are the same in terms of doing the right thing.
An individual is unlikely to make a difference, whether it's a great year for your party or not. However, you can live the way you want others to behave. Steps could be remembering the decency of people you disagree with, and making good-faith arguments, while making sure that you never give moral permission for anyone to go with a bad-faith argument that would hurt your side. For example, one thing that would be harmful for Democrats is if there's too much of a downside for candidates to lose elections. You don't want good candidates to sit out 2022 because a loss would hurt their chances for later office. So if anyone makes that kind of argument, you could push back on it.
It's a sensitive question. Threats against school boards are bad, but there is also the sense that the problem is exaggerated as a way to shut up concerned parents.
Garland wasn't able to mention specific situations where critics of school boards made terroristic threats, and one of the most high-profile examples others mentioned turns out to be a lot messier: a situation where parents were upset a school district appeared to cover up a politically sensitive sexual assault.
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Also not stolen.
Although I'm not sure Xheight can make that argument if he seems to think Clyburn endorsing Biden is beyond the pale.
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https://www.history.com/news/most-co...tial-electionsOne modern example, says Edward B. Foley, author of Ballot Battles: The History of Disputed Elections in the United States, can be found in Lyndon B. Johnson’s race for the Senate in Texas in 1948.
According to the account by Johnson biographer Robert Caro, the future president won a runoff primary by a mere 87 votes, after 200 extra votes were added to what Foley calls “the infamous Ballot Box 13.” That election may well have seen manipulation beyond that instance too, and on both sides. As Foley points out, though there’s no demonstrable evidence that Johnson himself participated in what happened, there were certainly people in the area who had an interest in his victory and who would have been able to make sure it happened. That sort of planned and intentional manipulation qualifies, for Foley, as rigging an election.
My favorite is the 1876, Hayes vs. Tilden which included a insurrection style threat.
Why would they load a blank for a rehearsal? Answer, they shouldn't. And you seem to misunderstand the procedure. Which should be for the armorer to keep sole custody of all weapons, (along with their assistants), and handing the weapon BULLET attached to the end. And blanks have a crimp . And...frankly, Baldwin has been doing this how long? He shouldn't be an amateur by now, nor indeed should any actor on such a set, or any director, producer, or anyone responsible in any way for handling guns on set. These are the rules of gun safety, and they apply to anyone at all handling any sort of gun. It isn't something optional that Baldwin and the rest on set might do, it's something mandatory for those who don't want to die or kill someone else. It's entirely possible to handle even real guns safely; but this is an example of people not doing that.
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Not really when "threat" is just saying that they know where they live? Protesting in front of someone's house is not a terrorist act. https://reason.com/volokh/2020/08/15...rst-amendment/
I don't see people following Sinema into a bathroom being taken down by security either.
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I understand the procedure, and Baldwin understood the procedure. However, the procedure does not include the actor's removing the cartridge from the pistol to verify that it is a blank. Actors should not be meddling with the props, even if they have a good intention in doing so. Incidentally, I believe firing a blank is in fact part of a rehearsal, since the actor needs to know what the recoil will feel like, he and the director need to determine at just what point in his motion he is to pull the trigger, the technicians need to know how loud it will sound, etc. In any case, the error took place before the rehearsal, when someone loaded live ammunition into the gun. it was not Baldwin's job to check that.
And the Trump people are of course wrong about that. Voting by mail is not illegitimate. Trump himself voted by mail when he won the 2016 election. And there is nothing per se wrong with a quid pro quo - after all, every negotiation or legislative compromise is a quid pro quo - it's what goes into the "quid" and the "quo" that can make it illegal. In Trump's case, the "quid" was the release of money that Congress had already approved for Ukraine but that Trump was unilaterally withholding contrary to Congress's direction, and the "quo" was information about a political opponent's family that Trump intended to use for purely personal reasons, namely his re-election campaign. That's a huge no-no, despite Trump's maintaining that it was a "perfect" phone conversation.
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I'm concerned Republicans aren't going to WAIT a year for another vote. Last night in Idaho, Charlie Kirk hosted another happy little white nationalist "Talking Points USA" event where said talking points included an attendee asking Kirk, "When do we get to start using the guns? When do we get to KILL PEOPLE?"
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I get what you are saying, but by all reports they were rehearsing a scene where Baldwin cross draws a gun and points it directly at the camera. In order to get the shot right, the Director and the DP were behind the camera to make sure the shot was lined up correctly. Alec was given a gun provided by an inexperienced armorer by a 2nd AD with a history of safety violations, and was told it was a cold gun, so he didn't expect there to be any rounds (or at the very least live rounds) in the chamber.
Could he have checked the gun first? Sure, he could have. But after 40+ years in the industry, it's probably been drilled into him not to mess with a gun he is given. He probably expected the gun to be unloaded, so he rehearsed the scene, and this tragedy happened. And we can all say that he bears some responsibility as a Producer, but the reality is that we don't know how involved he has been in the production outside of acting; a Producer's credit could just be a contractual maneuver to increase his pay.
You are right that the shouldn't have been given a real, function gun for a rehearsal. But then, the crew shouldn't have been taking prop guns out and shooting beer cans on their lunch break. Those guns should have been under lock and key. And if this armorer wasn't confident in her abilities, then she should have never taken the job, and spent more time apprenticing under someone else.
No, again, the actor does NOT touch the rounds. Which should not have been there in a gun declared safe. Which he would have known had he LOOKED, not touched. And again, it should have been handed to him cylinder open, allowing him to look and verify the gun was empty. It WAS absolutely Baldwin's job, as it is for anyone handling a gun. As the actors who have commented on this say is also true on set, (as it would assuming no one wants to die). No, firing a blank isn't part of rehearsal. Blanks come in different charges, which the armorer should know all about, including their sound, and the safe range for them. The actor, if he needs to know what the recoils is like, (hint, if they load blanks like .45 Colt rounds of average historical power, it won't be much, and it will be felt as a slower recoil than more modern rounds), he can do that by pointing it in a safe direction, not directly AT people, another huge and unforgivable gun safety violation that evidently from other testimony doesn't happen on safe sets. And you never should practice a draw like that with a loaded weapon. Which again goes back to Baldwin not checking the gun as he should have.
Since some seem to think it isn't his job to check...it absolutely IS.
Also, I agree that there were huge failures on the part of many people, not just Baldwin. Had any of them not happened, the whole thing wouldn't have happened. They also bear responsibility. I would expect that the AD and the armorer at least might face charges, (Baldwin while he could also face charges, in reality won't as he's a celebrity). And at the least, I would never hire anyone on the crew who took that gun out to plink again for anything. Of course, Baldwin might well have had something to do with hiring them, and probably with setting the way too low to make a movie safely level of budget. Yes, we don't know for sure how he was involved with all that, but it's likely he did have involvement, as the movie seems a bit too low budget to carry him in that role if he did nothing.
Baldwin never had to "mess" with the gun, just "look" at it to see it was indeed safe.