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    Glad to see they're looking into the handling of nursing/retirement homes under Cuomo, and not sweeping it under the rug in order to focus on the (still important, but far less so) sexual harassment scandals. Seemed like he might get off easy with a forced resignation, but if Huffpo is writing about it then maybe there'll be a higher profile investigation.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cuomo...b6429d083251c7
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    Quote Originally Posted by CSTowle View Post
    Glad to see they're looking into the handling of nursing/retirement homes under Cuomo, and not sweeping it under the rug in order to focus on the (still important, but far less so) sexual harassment scandals. Seemed like he might get off easy with a forced resignation, but if Huffpo is writing about it then maybe there'll be a higher profile investigation.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cuomo...b6429d083251c7
    This guys star has really fallen. just a couple months ago he was getting a freaken Emmy and everyone was in love with him. Now every wants his head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CSTowle View Post
    Glad to see they're looking into the handling of nursing/retirement homes under Cuomo, and not sweeping it under the rug in order to focus on the (still important, but far less so) sexual harassment scandals. Seemed like he might get off easy with a forced resignation, but if Huffpo is writing about it then maybe there'll be a higher profile investigation.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cuomo...b6429d083251c7
    I have trouble with these situations, even while looking at it from both sides, from all sides.

    It's one of those situations where you would need a mindreader and a time traveler to truly know what happened and who has the facts straight.

    I've seen politicians do much worse and get off with barely an admonishment; and I've seen politicians who have had their careers destroyed before the evidence, the facts, are even available.

    On the one hand, women (of which I am a member of this group) deserve to be heard and deserve to be taken seriously and deserve not to be abused, assaulted, harassed, and/or mistreated.

    On the other hand, retribution towards men isn't always proportional to the crime or infraction committed (in both directions), and in some cases the charges might not even be legit.

    Some sense of standards and laws applied appropriately should be how to handle these situations.

    A court of law or something similar, ideally, should be the place where this is resolved. Not a social mob with torches and pitchforks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    This guys star has really fallen. just a couple months ago he was getting a freaken Emmy and everyone was in love with him. Now every wants his head.
    More like the media loved him (and of course sites like WaPo are crying about how liberals were blind to Cuomo). For example his handling of COVID in nursing homes was always a big question mark for a lot of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    . . . West Virginia’s GOP Governor Calls Lifting Mask Mandates An Ill-Advised ‘Macho Thing’

    “I don’t know really what the big rush to get rid of the mask is, because these masks have saved a lot of lives,” said Jim Justice. WOW! A rational thinking Republican! As rare as a two dollar bill these days.
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    Glenn Greenwald completes his journey to nazbol noinsense.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...socialist.html

    In it, he declares that he considers the Donald Trump of 2016 along with Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson to be authentic socialists, unlike the center left, which is “about nothing more than trying to sandpaper the edges off neoliberalism”:

    “I would describe a lot of people on the right as being socialist. I would consider Steve Bannon to be socialist. I would consider the 2016 iteration of Donald Trump the candidate to be a socialist, based on what he was saying. I would consider Tucker Carlson to be a socialist.”

    Greenwald’s primary focus is on foreign policy and national security, where the ideological lines really are blurry enough to construct a halfway-plausible case that Trump is to the left of the Democratic Party. It’s certainly true that Trump has more dovish views on Russia, though his motives for cozying up to it and repeating Vladimir Putin’s propaganda are obviously deeply corrupt, a reality Greenwald has fanatically refused to concede.
    They soclaists, all right. Of the 'national' kind. One can say he's staked out a 'third position' here.

    Meanwhile, supposed neo-liberal democrats are giving kids UBI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    This guys star has really fallen. just a couple months ago he was getting a freaken Emmy and everyone was in love with him. Now every wants his head.
    He's my gov. He's a precious, ego-sensitive, vindictive gasbag that deserves everything that happens to him. He's created so many enemies on the Left that very few are willing to step-up for him now. He's on his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Wayne View Post
    More like the media loved him (and of course sites like WaPo are crying about how liberals were blind to Cuomo). For example his handling of COVID in nursing homes was always a big question mark for a lot of people.
    I only know him from the media. I dont know how new Yorkers felt about him before all this. but every mediea report I have seen up umtol a few weeks ago fawned on the guy. CNN acted like he was the second coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    I only know him from the media. I dont know how new Yorkers felt about him before all this. but every mediea report I have seen up umtol a few weeks ago fawned on the guy. CNN acted like he was the second coming.
    As a NY state employee, his antics are especially amplified for us. The media, especially CNN have a very cozy relationship with him. He's not especially liked by the Left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    I have trouble with these situations, even while looking at it from both sides, from all sides.

    It's one of those situations where you would need a mindreader and a time traveler to truly know what happened and who has the facts straight.

    I've seen politicians do much worse and get off with barely an admonishment; and I've seen politicians who have had their careers destroyed before the evidence, the facts, are even available.

    On the one hand, women (of which I am a member of this group) deserve to be heard and deserve to be taken seriously and deserve not to be abused, assaulted, harassed, and/or mistreated.

    On the other hand, retribution towards men isn't always proportional to the crime or infraction committed (in both directions), and in some cases the charges might not even be legit.

    Some sense of standards and laws applied appropriately should be how to handle these situations.

    A court of law or something similar, ideally, should be the place where this is resolved. Not a social mob with torches and pitchforks.
    NY Attorney General Letitia James is investigating the sexual harassment charges. I, for one, will withhold judgment until she announces the findings of her investigation. As for CNN, let's remember that Chris Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo's brother, is a CNN host. So they're not going to be objective on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    I only know him from the media. I dont know how new Yorkers felt about him before all this. but every mediea report I have seen up umtol a few weeks ago fawned on the guy. CNN acted like he was the second coming.
    Further to the left media, like TYT rarely had anything good to say about him. I'm originally from the Adirondacks in upstate NY, and there liking anyone named Cuomo is practicality a hanging offense, going back to his father.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malvolio View Post
    NY Attorney General Letitia James is investigating the sexual harassment charges. I, for one, will withhold judgment until she announces the findings of her investigation. As for CNN, let's remember that Chris Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo's brother, is a CNN host. So they're not going to be objective on this.
    That's how I want to play it too. I mean, he's not my Governor, however NY and NJ have a close relationship, like two siblings who don't always like each other, but occasionally need each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CSTowle View Post
    Glad to see they're looking into the handling of nursing/retirement homes under Cuomo, and not sweeping it under the rug in order to focus on the (still important, but far less so) sexual harassment scandals. Seemed like he might get off easy with a forced resignation, but if Huffpo is writing about it then maybe there'll be a higher profile investigation.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cuomo...b6429d083251c7
    Between the nursing home COVID deaths and the sexual harassment claims, Cuomo looks to have one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel. While he's said that he won't resign, the more is learned about the former which I consider more important than the latter, Cuomo might not have a choice but fall on his sword.
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    The most ridiculous bit of whataboutism I've seen recently are right-leaning Facebook friends sharing lyrics of Cardi B's "WAP" and wondering how the hell that's acceptable but Dr. Seuss is an absolute no-no these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellion View Post
    The most ridiculous bit of whataboutism I've seen recently are right-leaning Facebook friends sharing lyrics of Cardi B's "WAP" and wondering how the hell that's acceptable but Dr. Seuss is an absolute no-no these days.
    One is for children, one is not.

    If WAP was aimed at children, people would be having the same problem. Probably more so.
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