All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[Catlady in training]

Zelensky is visiting UK, later in the evening he's announced to fly to France.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-64566762

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Yes, but usually they are more undercover about it. This is blatant, while everyone is looking at them.

Ever since Trump came to power and empowered the racists, they no longer needed to hide.

How dare you insult Emma Frost's style!

Agreed. While Emma is a sociopath with delusions of grandeur, she has tons of elegance.

[Jack Dracula]

Ladies and germs, I give you the leader of the Howler Monkey Caucus!



Marjorie Taylor Greene Shouts 'Liar' At Joe Biden During State Of The Union

I imagine the internet will be awash over the next few days with photoshops of various things going into and coming out of Greene’s mouth.
This really is a great time to be alive.

[4theEarth]

Yes, but usually they are more undercover about it. This is blatant, while everyone is looking at them.

Reading the The Dawn of Everything reminds us, or should, of the concept of schismogenesis was developed by the anthropologist Gregory Bateson in the 1930s, to account for certain forms of social behavior between groups among the Iatmul people of the Sepik River.

If you call people racist long enough, why wouldn't they embrace it as the right thing to do if it defies the real people they hate.

[Dalak]

Ever since Trump came to power and empowered the racists, they no longer needed to hide.

I think it has something to do with the fact that even the sneaky racist shit people are pulling is being called out, so why try and hide it instead of lying about it and convincing 'the people who matter' that any claims of racism are a lie/false somehow.

[Kirby101]

Reading the The Dawn of Everything reminds us, or should, of the concept of schismogenesis was developed by the anthropologist Gregory Bateson in the 1930s, to account for certain forms of social behavior between groups among the Iatmul people of the Sepik River.

If you call people racist long enough, why wouldn't they embrace it as the right thing to do if it defies the real people they hate.

Sure, you got it. Mississippi wasn't racist at all until those damn liberals started calling them names. That is so insightful.

[Dalak]

Sure, you got it. Mississippi wasn't racist at all until those damn liberals started calling them names. That is so insightful.

The poster referred to mentioning HeeHaw as cancel culture, tried to convince people that racism is pragmatic and practical (and now only a response to being called racist), and considers the truth too limiting while advocating for chaos to tear everything down. If that's not trolling then I need a lobotomy.

[4theEarth]

Sure, you got it. Mississippi wasn't racist at all until those damn liberals started calling them names. That is so insightful.

What does it matter if they were harboring such feelings now they can embrace them out loud because people such as you have made it a badge of identity. You act as if people are inherently something good or bad (pretty much how the feel about you btw) and then expect them to do what exactly...vanish from the earth?

The poster referred to mentioning HeeHaw as cancel culture, tried to convince people that racism is pragmatic and practical (and now only a response to being called racist), and considers the truth too limiting while advocating for chaos to tear everything down. If that's not trolling then I need a lobotomy.

Opinions that don't conform to your received truths =troll LOL you have yet to elaborate on either why Majoritarianism is racist and why it is not practical nor why truth is so important to political discourse. That you don't understand that HeeHaw was literally canceled as a corporate/cultural reprograming shows a discomfort for complexity of ideas and perhaps explains a preference for righteous moral indignation.

[Kirby101]

What does it matter if they were harboring such feelings now they can embrace them out loud because people such as you have made it a badge of identity. You act as if people are inherently something good or bad (pretty much how the feel about you btw) and then expect them to do what exactly...vanish from the earth?

I guess you have no understanding of the history of that State. You might want to educate yourself before writing such a ridiculous post.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

What does it matter if they were harboring such feelings now they can embrace them out loud because people such as you have made it a badge of identity. You act as if people are inherently something good or bad (pretty much how the feel about you btw) and then expect them to do what exactly...vanish from the earth?



Opinions that don't conform to your received truths =troll LOL you have yet to elaborate on either why Majoritarianism is racist and why it is not practical nor why truth is so important to political discourse. That you don't understand that HeeHaw was literally canceled as a corporate/cultural reprograming shows a discomfort for complexity of ideas and perhaps explains a preference for righteous moral indignation.

Vanish from the earth? No. Stop being racist assholes? Yeah.

[Kirby101]

As far as classic TV and cancel culture, read up about the Nat King Cole Show.
CBS also cancelled Gillgan's Island at the same time, bigotry against sailors?

[Jack Dracula]

The right are eating each other.

Trump amplifies posts claiming DeSantis was 'grooming high school girls'



Here's that pic of teacher DeSantis with supposedly underage girls drinking. Anyone know if this is legit?

The only thing that really surprises me about this is that DeSantis was ever a teacher.

[Jack Dracula]

What does it matter if they were harboring such feelings now they can embrace them out loud because people such as you have made it a badge of identity. You act as if people are inherently something good or bad (pretty much how the feel about you btw) and then expect them to do what exactly...vanish from the earth?



Opinions that don't conform to your received truths =troll LOL you have yet to elaborate on either why Majoritarianism is racist and why it is not practical nor why truth is so important to political discourse. That you don't understand that HeeHaw was literally canceled as a corporate/cultural reprograming shows a discomfort for complexity of ideas and perhaps explains a preference for righteous moral indignation.

Majoritarianism as a political idea isn’t racist by itself.
As our country’s and others history demonstrates, it typically follows racial and/or religious lines.
It’s the bigotry or racism that initiates or corrupts the Majoritarianism.
Shouldn’t really have to explain that to someone who portrays themself to be so smart btw.

[4theEarth]

As far as classic TV and cancel culture, read up about the Nat King Cole Show.
CBS also cancelled Gillgan's Island at the same time, bigotry against sailors?

Nice try to confuse the issue but is well documented that it was a broad and content based move by CBS to get rid of one kind of audience for another. Cancelations happen all the time, culling whole program types was another. For someone pointing to history you seem to want to ignore it and what in particular makes Mississippi any different than a former slave state that has transitioned through the Jim Crow era and contains enduring ideas of racial superiority? What's your point about Nat Cole btw?

Are you rejecting WestPhillyPunisher's prescription of their discovering manners and being nice to others? It is laughable i know after being insulted and belittled for decades as a part of America that we would rather not think about until they vote someone like Trump into office that is. This is the stupidity of current liberalism, chastise those that aren't mannered and empathetic to be more kind and caring. How is that working out?

[Dalak]

What does it matter if they were harboring such feelings now they can embrace them out loud because people such as you have made it a badge of identity. You act as if people are inherently something good or bad (pretty much how the feel about you btw) and then expect them to do what exactly...vanish from the earth?

Opinions that don't conform to your received truths =troll LOL you have yet to elaborate on either why Majoritarianism is racist and why it is not practical nor why truth is so important to political discourse. That you don't understand that HeeHaw was literally canceled as a corporate/cultural reprograming shows a discomfort for complexity of ideas and perhaps explains a preference for righteous moral indignation.

Truth is important because Reality can't be papered over by nice words, and using lies to paint specific targets as the origins of your problems allows the real reasons to go unchallenged. Truth isn't an agreed upon belief, it's based on facts and factual reality. I've posted many times about truth and how everyone on the public dime should be subject to strict punishments for lying or spreading misinformation so it's not about 'the status quo'.

A reference isn't a declaration of cancellation, it's a reference and you can watch MST3k on Youtube for lots of referential humor as examples. Considering HeeHaw was cancelled before I was born I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with modern sensibilities or cultural norms.

Deliberately disenfranchising specific groups of people in order to enrich a specific one is cruel, dehumanizes others, and causes them to want to overthrow and punish the specific group that was on the top. It's also very illegal in the US as all men are created equal and endowed with inalienable rights, even if those who wrote those words owned slaves. For another response to this you can see Chad's post. As George Carlin and others have said, there's nothing inherently racist about the words used as racial slurs in and of themselves.

Why do you dislike factual truth and those who stand up for it?
Why is sticking to truth and facts so limiting for you?
Why is treating others as equals something troublesome to you compared to punching down at minorities which you've encouraged?
Why do your posts change from erudite & understandable to angry & senseless so often?