All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

Leftist extremists hate Democrats more than Republicans, and the party is welcoming of leftist views - that's why we have the Justice Democrats and Sanders himself was a big factor in the presidential primaries. The base chose Biden, that's why he won there was no "silent majority" if they were Biden wouldn't have won. Which is how the GOP got Trump, not thanks.

He has, and they spit in his face for it. Nothing will get them on board, even when Trump puts immigrants in concentration camps. They're welcome to naval gaze, the Democrats will fight fascism without their support because they never hd any interest in reaching out.

This is not based in reality

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

Because until the GOP is completely marginalized, they will use every dirty trick in the book to try and frustrate whatever agenda the Democrats try to implement. This is especially true at the state and local level where Republicans still hold most of the governorships and state legislatures, and could easily stymie the implementation of any legislation the same way they did with the Obamacare rollout. This is why there can be no compromise whatsoever with the GOP, we need to continue pressing them until they are completely exhausted as a political force.

Basically this. Our problem is that this election didn’t show that Trumpism was unacceptable. It showed that he couldn’t survive increased turnout amidst a national crisis. Which should have been a given. Republicans have no reason to move away from that strategy when they were rewarded for it.

[BeastieRunner]

I don't think that there are enough to make a difference.

In Nevada there is. Military Times reported oversea and military ballots were at an all time high this year. Nevada had roughly 6K votes from overseas and military in 2018.

[GindyPosts]

306 Biden - 232 Trump If Trump gets his way and stops counting across the board.

The recount law, the 2000 SCOTUS decisions, and part of the voting rights act all favor Biden.

SCOTUS would have to overturn an awful lot of laws in order to give Trump a victory. Even then, the margins are not in favor of Trump at this point.

I'm down with 75 days of Trump losing in court battles.

If it was only one state, Trump could possibly have an argument, but we're talking about three or even four states here. Besides, what would his argument be? "I didn't how the outcome turned out for me! Change it so I won, please?"

Trump was able to get even more people to vote for him in 2016, and managed to get the Cuban American vote in Florida, winning that state, but he kept telling everyone about the evils of mail-in voting and why nobody should vote by mail (the fact Trump votes by mail should never be forgotten), and sure enough, while most Trump voters voted in person, a vast majority of the mail-in vote overwhelmingly voted in favor of Biden.

There's a reason why we don't write children's books about our "lesser" presidents like James Buchanan or Warren G. Harding, as despite the fact they held office, their presidencies were mired with scandal and incompetence, so we're forced to abridge their history with minor tidbits such as "Buchanan was the only unmarried president" or "During Harding's term, there was a scandal called 'Teapot Dome'" before moving on to the more noteworthy men. I'm not sure what Trump's tidbit is going to be 40-50 years from now, but since they love to write about how fat William Taft was, I suppose they'll mention how much time Trump golfed and just leave it at that.

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

In Nevada there is. Military Times reported oversea and military ballots were at an all time high this year. Nevada had roughly 6K votes from overseas and military in 2018.

The thing is Nevada is the least meaningful state in this. It only has 6. It only mattered if Biden got swept everywhere else he could win in Arizona and Nevada.

[GindyPosts]

Leftist extremists hate Democrats more than Republicans, and the party is welcoming of leftist views - that's why we have the Justice Democrats and Sanders himself was a big factor in the presidential primaries. The base chose Biden, that's why he won there was no "silent majority" if they were Biden wouldn't have won. Which is how the GOP got Trump, not thanks.

He has, and they spit in his face for it. Nothing will get them on board, even when Trump puts immigrants in concentration camps. They're welcome to naval gaze, the Democrats will fight fascism without their support because they never hd any interest in reaching out.

Oh, don't get me wrong; I have seen this phenomenon. Those folks have stated they were voting Green or a write-in candidate rather support "the corrupt process", essentially throwing their vote away. Really, there's just nothing you can do for these individuals since they themselves have said liberals are worse than conservatives.

And, that's why I said a while back it sucks to be a liberal. Conservatives blame ya for everything wrong that happens in this country, and these radicals think you're the Devil's toejam. Nobody wants to listen to your side of the discussion.

[Iron Maiden]

I don't think that there are enough to make a difference.

And they are not like one huge voting block.....IIRC each vote will go to their home state.

[Mecegirl]

I don't think that there are enough to make a difference.

There might be for a state like Georgia.

[Iron Maiden]

Oh, don't get me wrong; I have seen this phenomenon. Those folks have stated they were voting Green or a write-in candidate rather support "the corrupt process", essentially throwing their vote away. Really, there's just nothing you can do for these individuals since they themselves have said liberals are worse than conservatives.

And, that's why I said a while back it sucks to be a liberal. Conservatives blame ya for everything wrong that happens in this country, and these radicals think you're the Devil's toejam. Nobody wants to listen to your side of the discussion.

I'd be perfectly fine with being classified as a progressive instead even if I don't agree with it all. I'm just tired of the "libtard" insult

[Revolutionary_Jack]

Trump was able to get even more people to vote for him in 2016, and managed to get the Cuban American vote in Florida, winning that state, but he kept telling everyone about the evils of mail-in voting and why nobody should vote by mail (the fact Trump votes by mail should never be forgotten), and sure enough, while most Trump voters voted in person, a vast majority of the mail-in vote overwhelmingly voted in favor of Biden.

Voter suppression helped Trump in 2016. More GOP voted in 2020 and they lost electorally and popularly. But more Dems voted in 2020 as well.

Voter suppression and partisan gerrymandering will not be as easy for the GOP in 2020 as it was in 2010. They will do it of course and it will bear fruit for them but it won't go as well for them as before.

There's a reason why we don't write children's books about our "lesser" presidents like James Buchanan or Warren G. Harding, as despite the fact they held office, their presidencies were mired with scandal and incompetence, so we're forced to abridge their history with minor tidbits such as "Buchanan was the only unmarried president" or "During Harding's term, there was a scandal called 'Teapot Dome'" before moving on to the more noteworthy men. I'm not sure what Trump's tidbit is going to be 40-50 years from now, but since they love to write about how fat William Taft was, I suppose they'll mention how much time Trump golfed and just leave it at that.

Trump will have the notoriety that McCarthy has, that Huey Long has, that Nixon has. He's gonna be remembered for sure. If only because he was POTUS during a time of mass media and popular culture unlike earlier bad POTUSes. The reason Nixon is remembered as a supervillain for instance, aside from Watergate is that he existed in the time of New Hollywood where a few years after quitting you had a movie called All The President's Men that epitaphed him in popular memory. Likewise counterculture writers and others like Hunter Thompson and so on.

Trump is far and away the most corrupt President in US History and ran the most corrupt administration by far. Breaking Reagan's record for number of people with criminal indictments (a number which will go up soon). And Reagan had that in 8 years whereas Trump exceeded that in 4. His administration presided over the fourth greatest mass casualty crisis in US History. More people died in the 8 months of COVID than US soldiers and citizens who died in World War 1, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War 1, 9/11, Afghanistan, Gulf War II, Oklahoma, Jim Jones, and every school shooting and terrorist attack in the interim. Pile all the dead of 75 years and Trump has exceeded them in 8 months.

He and his movement will be considered the American equivalent of Mao Zedong's Cultural Revolution, a period of mass insanity and populist uprising that descended into a nihilistic orgy. So yeah, he'll be remembered.

[Tendrin]

A developing situation for WBE to keep an eye on:

https://twitter.com/chrisnaguskmov/s...268350464?s=21

A local private investigator admits to placing GPS trackers on the personal vehicles of high ranking Missouri officials. Says he got help from a state lawmaker. @GovParsonMO office wants those involved held accountable.

[BeastieRunner]

If it was only one state, Trump could possibly have an argument, but we're talking about three or even four states here. Besides, what would his argument be? "I didn't how the outcome turned out for me! Change it so I won, please?"

Trump was able to get even more people to vote for him in 2016, and managed to get the Cuban American vote in Florida, winning that state, but he kept telling everyone about the evils of mail-in voting and why nobody should vote by mail (the fact Trump votes by mail should never be forgotten), and sure enough, while most Trump voters voted in person, a vast majority of the mail-in vote overwhelmingly voted in favor of Biden.

There's a reason why we don't write children's books about our "lesser" presidents like James Buchanan or Warren G. Harding, as despite the fact they held office, their presidencies were mired with scandal and incompetence, so we're forced to abridge their history with minor tidbits such as "Buchanan was the only unmarried president" or "During Harding's term, there was a scandal called 'Teapot Dome'" before moving on to the more noteworthy men. I'm not sure what Trump's tidbit is going to be 40-50 years from now, but since they love to write about how fat William Taft was, I suppose they'll mention how much time Trump golfed and just leave it at that.

The sections about 2016 - 2020 will largely be about rising racial tensions, increased school shootings, the widening of the Great American Divide, the slow fall of the Long, Slow Climb and COVID-19.

45's part will largely be about conspiracy theories, golfing, "fake news," and failing to respond to any of those things mentioned above.

[babyblob]

So I my aunt was on a voice chat with her Trumper friends. I saw in because i had questions and man was this a doozy.

I pointed out that Biden took a lead in Ga and Nevada. They all said fraud and cheating. I pointed out that the Secretary of State in each state is a republican. And if there is wide spread fraud against Trump would they not be going on about it like crazy? Several said they dont have the platform to talk about this like they should. I pointed out social media, and the fact that both have had national press conferences in the last several days. And both in these have said on tv there is no fraud. The election is valid. Two said that each Secretary hated Trump for years. And many said that both need to be investigated by the FBI because it is clear that Biden and Pelosi have paid them off and bank records will show that.

So i presented valid truthful points against the claim of fraud. And they all went batshit crazy on their BS claims. Then they asked my aunt how it felt to live with a hard core socialist.

Moments like this make me think thank god I left the party. And was I ever this blind?

[BeastieRunner]

The cascade of news agencies calling PA for Biden has started.

#BYEdon is trending now.

[Tami]

A developing situation for WBE to keep an eye on:

https://twitter.com/chrisnaguskmov/s...268350464?s=21

That is one strange story.