All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[Zauriel]

Republicans is your answer.

Cannabis is legal in some red states such as Alaska, Arizona (just became blue or purple), Montana, and South Dakota. Perhaps some Republicans have decided the war on drugs was a lost cause.

Most of the states have legalized the weed but only for medical purposes.

[Madam-Shogun-Assassin]

Cannabis is legal in some red states such as Alaska, Arizona (just became blue or purple), Montana, and South Dakota. Perhaps some Republicans have decided the war on drugs was a lost cause.

Most of the states have legalized the weed but only for medical purposes.

The war on drugs also wasn't just about drugs either.

[Kirby101]

Cannabis is legal in some red states such as Alaska, Arizona (just became blue or purple), Montana, and South Dakota. Perhaps some Republicans have decided the war on drugs was a lost cause.

Most of the states have legalized the weed but only for medical purposes.

Some States yes. But the reason the House Bill won't pass the Senate is the GOP.

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

So cool how Dems totally decided to screw over working people with this bipartisan stimulus they are pushing. Couldn't even stop corporate whores for a whole a month to enjoy a honeymoon period lol

[ed2962]

I'm late to this topic, but I'm pretty sure that Michelle Malkin wrote a book justifying WW2 Japanese internment camps in America. She was another person angling for a show on FOX. When that didn't happen she almost had a thing on Blaze TV, Glenn Beck's backers wanted to get rid of her.

[worstblogever]

The really sad part is that these people have known all along that Trump is hurting them, but believe it supports some greater good, like eliminating brown people immigrating to the country. They've known it almost from the beginning of Trump's presidency, but seem to view it as some noble act of faith, like early Christians allowing Romans to feed them to lions.

The GOP has "death cult" down enough that these morons are on Twitter bragging that they're flouting mask rules and TRYING to catch Covid-19 to "own the libs".

And I'm like:

[Kirby101]

So cool how Dems totally decided to screw over working people with this bipartisan stimulus they are pushing. Couldn't even stop corporate whores for a whole a month to enjoy a honeymoon period lol

How are they screwing over working people?

https://www.cnet.com/personal-financ...-billion-plan/

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

How are they screwing over working people?

https://www.cnet.com/personal-financ...-billion-plan/

Well Biden and Pelosi are now urging everyone to agree to a relief Bill that includes no stimulus checks and literally is half the unemployment from the last stimulus check because Joe Manchin and a bunch of Republicans got together and crapped it together.

And if you read your article you would realize that the one Biden is asking for that is $908 billion is the one that I just described. So I could care less about the higher price tag compared to McConnell's farce.

So basically they balked on the two things that effect most people.

And they are still pretty much a giveaway to corporations without any liability. It's a complete joke

EDIT: And just so we are clear, there was a better deal on the table that Pelosi said wasn't good enough and blocked and now she is arguing for a worse deal.

[numberthirty]

Well Biden and Pelosi are now urging everyone to agree to a relief Bill that includes no stimulus checks and literally is half the unemployment from the last stimulus check because Joe Manchin and a bunch of Republicans got together and crapped it together.

And if you read your article you would realize that the one Biden is asking for that is $908 billion is the one that I just described. So I could care less about the higher price tag compared to McConnell's farce.

So basically they balked on the two things that effect most people.

And they are still pretty much a giveaway to corporations without any liability. It's a complete joke

EDIT: And just so we are clear, there was a better deal on the table that Pelosi said wasn't good enough and blocked and now she is arguing for a worse deal.

To say the very least.

If you are going to question if this seems like John/Jane Public are getting a raw deal?

You are going to need to go into the finer points of how the deal being discussed is a better deal.

[Kirby101]

The thing is, without GOP Senators, no Bill will pass. So you want the House to pass a $2 trillion Bill that won't even come up in the Senate.

Pelosi passed a better Bill a few months ago, where is that now?

[numberthirty]

The thing is, without GOP Senators, no Bill will pass. So you want the House to pass a $2 trillion Bill that won't even come up in the Senate.

Pelosi passed a better Bill a few months ago, where is that now?

Well Biden and Pelosi are now urging everyone to agree to a relief Bill that includes no stimulus checks and literally is half the unemployment from the last stimulus check because Joe Manchin and a bunch of Republicans got together and crapped it together.

And if you read your article you would realize that the one Biden is asking for that is $908 billion is the one that I just described. So I could care less about the higher price tag compared to McConnell's farce.

So basically they balked on the two things that effect most people.

And they are still pretty much a giveaway to corporations without any liability. It's a complete joke

EDIT: And just so we are clear, there was a better deal on the table that Pelosi said wasn't good enough and blocked and now she is arguing for a worse deal.

No point in discussing what was never going to be when the actual discussion is about the deal that Pelosi turned down versus the worse deal that she is now seemingly backing.

[Kirby101]

Could you link the worse deal that McConnell agreed to pass and Trump was going to sign?

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

The thing is, without GOP Senators, no Bill will pass. So you want the House to pass a $2 trillion Bill that won't even come up in the Senate.

Pelosi passed a better Bill a few months ago, where is that now?

You had a better bill on the table that Trump proposed, for all his faults and she died on the hill that it wasn't good enough and now she wants to argue for a bill that is less than 60% that bill's value. On top of that, most of the country is labor and they will see next to nothing from this bill. There will be no stimulus and the unemployed will see their benefits from the last bill halved. So it's literally not helping the majority of the workforce whatsoever. It's a handout to businesses with a liability shield and nothing more.

You don't get to hold out on better deals screaming it wasn't enough for months and then when you finally win your election and are about to be in power in less than two months accept a piece of garbage that was worse than something you found unacceptable not too long ago and then cry that the Republicans are holding you up. You waited this long already and now you are going to cave and give people nothing so that when you take power everyone can throw their hands up and say "oh well we just passed something so there is no political capital or need to go into heavy negotiations again.

At this point you have more leverage and you are accepting less. You don't get a pass anymore.

[DrNewGod]

You had a better bill on the table that Trump proposed, for all his faults and she died on the hill that it wasn't good enough and now she wants to argue for a bill that is less than 60% that bill's value. On top of that, most of the country is labor and they will see next to nothing from this bill. There will be no stimulus and the unemployed will see their benefits from the last bill halved. So it's literally not helping the majority of the workforce whatsoever. It's a handout to businesses with a liability shield and nothing more.

You don't get to hold out on better deals screaming it wasn't enough for months and then when you finally win your election and are about to be in power in less than two months accept a piece of garbage that was worse than something you found unacceptable not too long ago and then cry that the Republicans are holding you up. You waited this long already and now you are going to cave and give people nothing so that when you take power everyone can throw their hands up and say "oh well we just passed something so there is no political capital or need to go into heavy negotiations again.

At this point you have more leverage and you are accepting less. You don't get a pass anymore.

Speaking of dying on a hill...bon chance Sir du Lac.

[Steel Inquisitor]

There is no “recovery”. There’s never been a “recovery” because this country never had a national plan to address the pandemic. We’ve been on the same uninterrupted path since the beginning and no one who’s paying attention should be surprised by where we are now. In a few weeks we’re going to see more articles about the massive numbers of people being evicted from their homes and the chattering political class will express shock at that too like people haven’t been sounding the alarm for months & being ignored. If you’re on a sinking boat with a bucket trying to scoop water up & toss it back into the sea but the boat is taking on water faster than you can empty it, would you refer to the time you remain afloat as a “a glimmer of light”?

Wrong, Biden's been getting everything in gear so he can hit the ground running when he becomes president. Biden's not governing like Trump is, he's not going to sabotage efforts to stop the pandemic and sit and do nothing while people die. It is a glimmer of hope. Biden is not Trump. America did have a nation plan for a pandemic, created by the Obama administration - Trump disbanded it when he moved in. Have you been paying attention to what Biden's bene doing during the transition?