What I'm hearing just sounds like...
"How Dare Warren Suggest Doing More To Wall Of Public Service From Issues/Potential Issues?..."
Which is what folks should actually be backing.
For that to happen anti-Trump Republicans would have to grow spines and organize. The only way the GOP will change its course is if enough of these supposedly sane conservatives make their thoughts and feelings heard. The GOP has come to the realization that it makes more sense to focus their energy on engaging with the hard-core nutters in their party because the main-stream Republican cowards will fall in line no matter how crazy things get.
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"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
“It’s your party and you can cry if you want to.” - Captain Europe
Here's what the never Trumpers have yet to adequately , if you strip away all the racist and fascist elements away from the modern GOP and bring it back to its supposed ideological roots, then what exactly do you have left? Are we really supposed to believe that there is a significant proportion of the country that believes you can be committed to religious fundamentalism, government so small you can drown it in a bathtub, and aggressive military expansion abroad, yet somehow do it all in a nice and "civil" way that doesn't harm or offend anyone? Conservatism in America has never been a coherent ideology, and the people who advocate for it most strongly never actually believed it in enough to practice any of what they preach, these are not people that you can ever reason with or compromise with.
Parties tend to bounce back from major defeats.
Richard Nixon wins 49 states in 1972, and a Democrat wins the next presidential election.
Obama becomes the second Democrat since LBJ to win a majority of the popular vote, and liberals imagine a period of permanent Democratic control. And then Republicans win the US House in the midterms.
I saw a list of judicial grievances that was kind of telling.
https://twitter.com/Jamie_Weinstein/...28748488081408
Dem Grievances:
- McConnell blocking Obama judicial nominees.
- Garland
- Nuke option for SC
- Republican inconsistency on election year appointments.
GOP Grievances:
- Bork
- Thomas hearing
- Filibustering Miguel Estrada for DC court
- Accusing Alito of being a bigot causing wife to cry
- Filibustering Alito
- Reid ending filibuster for jud noms other than SC
- Filibustering Gorsuch
- Kav hearing
There are a lot of reasons for Republicans to be pissed.
Some of these are defensible in isolation. You could argue that Bork was a uniquely troubling Supreme Court choice, although I wonder how many agree that every word of Ted Kennedy's "Robert Bork's America" speech was fair. It is worth noting that the next Democratic President had his Supreme Court choices go through on a 96-3 vote and an 87-9 vote, so it wasn't taken that personally.
But this does add up. And there is plenty that Democrats did. The filibustering of Estrada because he was latino was particularly insidious.
Sincerely,
Thomas Mets
It means she understands where priorities should lay.
You're hearing what you want to hear.What I'm hearing just sounds like...
"How Dare Warren Suggest Doing More To Wall Of Public Service From Issues/Potential Issues?..."
Which is what folks should actually be backing.
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"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
“It’s your party and you can cry if you want to.” - Captain Europe
Not any good reasons. Clarence Thomas was accused credibly of sexual misconduct by Anita Hill and other employees. And even then when it came to vote, Thomas got confirmed with Democrat Senators voting to confirm him. Brett Kavanaugh was also credibly accused of sexual misconduct. If the Republicans can't do basic background checks and hire clean candidates, then it's their fault and not the Democrats.
Every word Ted Kennedy said was true.Some of these are defensible in isolation. You could argue that Bork was a uniquely troubling Supreme Court choice, although I wonder how many agree that every word of Ted Kennedy's "Robert Bork's America" speech was fair.
Estrada was filibustered because he was being rushed through despite the fact that he had no experience as a judge, no career as an academic and aside from being recommended by The Federalist Society, had no other credentials aside from working on the legal team of Bush v. Gore. In other words an obvious crony appointment by the Republicans much like the slew of incompetents McConnell has been stacking the judiciary with during Trump's term.The filibustering of Estrada because he was latino was particularly insidious.
Again this is bad faith. Democrats raised legitimate complaints about the appointments Republicans made but you equate the fact that these complaints were made as equivalent to Republican escalation. They aren't.
To follow up what I posted earlier.
It seems a judge was sending folks away from voting for wearing pink and green AKA (Harris's sorority) or just plain clothes. Something that judge had been getting away with for a few days. They finally moved him.
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Watergate damaged the GOPs credibility in a way it took Raegan to fix. And even then there were a perfect storm of factors that enabled it.
The first Bush screwed up on Election Year and paid for it. And the second Bush only won due to one state.
The same happened in 2008 with the Recession, and the unpopular (if not) illegal Iraq War the Bush Administration put forth. Combined with Obama's charisma it's no surprise he won.
Trump was facing an already deeply unpopular candidate who only got further bogged down and he still lost the popular vote (though not by much).
You're not wrong about the tendency of both sides to think they have the upper hand and get cocky, but I get the feeling that the Republicans are going to have a harder time recovering every time.
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Bush I was in 2 unique situations. First, he represented the first time one party had held onto the White House for longer than 8 years since Truman. It isn't much of a stretch to consider Bush not as a one term President, but as Reagan's third term. Second, the election had the strongest 3rd party run I remember in my lifetime siphoning votes - maybe the strongest 3rd party attempt since Theodore Roosevelt started the Progressive Party that inadvertently led to Woodrow Wilson's election.
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I believe this is exactly the position that Mets is in. Trump has become a toxic asset. Better to endorse the Democratic candidate while maintaining a Republican controlled Senate, in effect making Biden a lame duck, and having a weak Biden Presidency will make for a stronger case for a Republican President in 2024. It has the added benefit of making Mets appear to be somebody that has more reasonable 'moderate' views.
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