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    Look, I lean conservative but the thing is when two sides liberal and conservative talk about issues the point is not to convert but have a dialogue. It should be "I feel a c d e f". the other side says "I think "g h i j k". so then it becomes I disagree on points g j k i, but agree on h. It's about finding common ground on issues that matter. But instead it becomes mud slinging a lot I see on this board heavily towards Republicans. I haven't seen one post talking positively about a GOP candidate who does well and I haven't seen one post calling out a Dem. Back to mud slinging folks. Cherry pick something someone says and call them a bigot instead of reading the whole quote for context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTTT View Post
    Look, I lean conservative but the thing is when two sides liberal and conservative talk about issues the point is not to convert but have a dialogue. It should be "I feel a c d e f". the other side says "I think "g h i j k". so then it becomes I disagree on points g j k i, but agree on h. It's about finding common ground on issues that matter. But instead it becomes mud slinging a lot I see on this board heavily towards Republicans. I haven't seen one post talking positively about a GOP candidate who does well and I haven't seen one post calling out a Dem. Back to mud slinging folks. Cherry pick something someone says and call them a bigot instead of reading the whole quote for context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTTT View Post
    Look, I lean conservative but the thing is when two sides liberal and conservative talk about issues the point is not to convert but have a dialogue. It should be "I feel a c d e f". the other side says "I think "g h i j k". so then it becomes I disagree on points g j k i, but agree on h. It's about finding common ground on issues that matter. But instead it becomes mud slinging a lot I see on this board heavily towards Republicans. I haven't seen one post talking positively about a GOP candidate who does well and I haven't seen one post calling out a Dem. Back to mud slinging folks. Cherry pick something someone says and call them a bigot instead of reading the whole quote for context.
    We have called out the Dems on here. Were you not reading the post when the Afgan mess was going on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    We have called out the Dems on here. Were you not reading the post when the Afgan mess was going on?
    It is just more "both sides" drivel. Trying to make the GOP seem remotely reasonable. Democrats as a party platform are not actively trying to legislate that groups of Americans shouldn't even exist. Or be talked about. There is no "common ground" with people who not only think you are less than them, but actively pursue laws to make it so legally.

    What "common ground" will I find with people who believe math textbooks have secret CRT racial formulas? Or mentioning that sometimes people have 2 dads, or moms in families is somehow indoctrination?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTTT View Post
    Look, I lean conservative but the thing is when two sides liberal and conservative talk about issues the point is not to convert but have a dialogue. It should be "I feel a c d e f". the other side says "I think "g h i j k". so then it becomes I disagree on points g j k i, but agree on h. It's about finding common ground on issues that matter. But instead it becomes mud slinging a lot I see on this board heavily towards Republicans. I haven't seen one post talking positively about a GOP candidate who does well and I haven't seen one post calling out a Dem. Back to mud slinging folks. Cherry pick something someone says and call them a bigot instead of reading the whole quote for context.
    The GOP threw out the "let's sit down and talk" during Obama's time. And it got worse when trump gave the tea party a voice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelena View Post
    Shouldn’t doors prevent shooters from entering the school?
    Depending in the school in question-most doors are unlocked per the Fire Marshall.

    And some schools in school district like mine has to leave door unlocked because you have portables outside due to overcrowding.
    The school I graduated from turned 100 years old this year. The first black school in Dallas and is now a historical landmark. We got 10 school sniffing 80+ years.

    We have 6 schools located on college campuses.

    Now you do have some that are locked from the outside and can be opened from the inside. However most of those doors are armed to sound an alarm.

    And there is another issue-CHARTER SCHOOLS....

    The majority of them are not is actual school buildings-you got some that have used old buildings that held places like Meryvns or Sears or ToysRus. What bullets are those doors going to prevent?

    I know one that are located on what use to be a college campus. With another one slated to open in a MALL.

    How does one door entrance work with them?

    In my county, the largest high school is usually 3,000.
    We got a school with 6000 kids. The largest in Texas and 5th in the nation.

    One of our GOP City Council Members is going on that. At his home he has two doors. A Front door and a back door. Why do some school have 5 6 ten doors? A front A Back and maybe a side should be fine. And easier to handle.
    Until you have a fire drill.

    Oh lets NOT forget handicap kids-they are going to need ramps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTTT View Post
    Look, I lean conservative but the thing is when two sides liberal and conservative talk about issues the point is not to convert but have a dialogue. It should be "I feel a c d e f". the other side says "I think "g h i j k". so then it becomes I disagree on points g j k i, but agree on h. It's about finding common ground on issues that matter. But instead it becomes mud slinging a lot I see on this board heavily towards Republicans. I haven't seen one post talking positively about a GOP candidate who does well and I haven't seen one post calling out a Dem. Back to mud slinging folks. Cherry pick something someone says and call them a bigot instead of reading the whole quote for context.
    How am I supposed to find common ground with a side that wants trans kids to die?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTTT View Post
    Look, I lean conservative but the thing is when two sides liberal and conservative talk about issues the point is not to convert but have a dialogue. It should be "I feel a c d e f". the other side says "I think "g h i j k". so then it becomes I disagree on points g j k i, but agree on h. It's about finding common ground on issues that matter. But instead it becomes mud slinging a lot I see on this board heavily towards Republicans. I haven't seen one post talking positively about a GOP candidate who does well and I haven't seen one post calling out a Dem. Back to mud slinging folks.
    Who had constantly stood in the way of ANY attempt to discuss or debate on issues???

    It has been ONE party that has allowed certain members to show their behinds nonstop.

    What Democrat has tried to pass laws to go after Disney?

    Cherry pick something someone says and call them a bigot instead of reading the whole quote for context.
    Oh like how GOP & Fake News has done the same thing to Democrats or whoever they don't like?


    The GOP threw out the "let's sit down and talk" during Obama's time.
    This.....

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    99% of the time iwth a GOP politician, the 'full context' just makes it worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTTT View Post
    Look, I lean conservative but the thing is when two sides liberal and conservative talk about issues the point is not to convert but have a dialogue. It should be "I feel a c d e f". the other side says "I think "g h i j k". so then it becomes I disagree on points g j k i, but agree on h. It's about finding common ground on issues that matter. But instead it becomes mud slinging a lot I see on this board heavily towards Republicans. I haven't seen one post talking positively about a GOP candidate who does well and I haven't seen one post calling out a Dem. Back to mud slinging folks. Cherry pick something someone says and call them a bigot instead of reading the whole quote for context.
    (Let's never mind that I could easily go back a quote a bunch of my own posts...)

    If you are seriously saying that you have never seen anyone in this thread throw Manchin or Sinema under the bus?

    You must not have looked very hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTTT View Post
    Look, I lean conservative but the thing is when two sides liberal and conservative talk about issues the point is not to convert but have a dialogue. It should be "I feel a c d e f". the other side says "I think "g h i j k". so then it becomes I disagree on points g j k i, but agree on h. It's about finding common ground on issues that matter. But instead it becomes mud slinging a lot I see on this board heavily towards Republicans. I haven't seen one post talking positively about a GOP candidate who does well and I haven't seen one post calling out a Dem. Back to mud slinging folks. Cherry pick something someone says and call them a bigot instead of reading the whole quote for context.

    Straight Talk...

    Republicans at the "Federal..." level fall into one of two groups.

    - Bought And Paid For
    - Too Busy Looking Out For Their Own Piece Of The Pie To Really Stand Up To The Previous Group

    "GOP Candidate Who Does Well..."

    That garbage does not even compute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTTT View Post
    Look, I lean conservative but the thing is when two sides liberal and conservative talk about issues the point is not to convert but have a dialogue. It should be "I feel a c d e f". the other side says "I think "g h i j k". so then it becomes I disagree on points g j k i, but agree on h. It's about finding common ground on issues that matter. But instead it becomes mud slinging a lot I see on this board heavily towards Republicans. I haven't seen one post talking positively about a GOP candidate who does well and I haven't seen one post calling out a Dem. Back to mud slinging folks. Cherry pick something someone says and call them a bigot instead of reading the whole quote for context.
    Okay, give me something the GOP has done in the last 20 years that we should say, "good job."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Okay, give me something the GOP has done in the last 20 years that we should say, "good job."
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    How am I supposed to find common ground with a side that wants trans kids to die?
    I guess you could IF you sat down with a moderate Republican find a few points of agreement?

    But what would be the point?

    CTT seems to believe (as Joe Biden seems to) that this should be the maybe a principal aim. But is it?

    Put it this way…when decades ago I was much more interested in politics I thought the main aim was to improve things for disadvantaged people, and the main way of doing that was to try to convince people to take a more humane approach to life.

    If finding common ground actually helps that..then yes by all means do it. But conversely if finding common ground doesn’t help that…then do other things.

    The basic point for me is that “finding common ground” is not really the main aim. Yes…of course…you need to win elections, but to do that you don’t need to find common ground with extreme opponents. Nor should you try (in my opinion!).

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