All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[Zauriel]

I have said this before.

Even if the Fulton County District Attorney or the Manhattan D.A. Alvin Bragg can get Trump convicted of these charges, he can still run for office, even from behind bars. The Constitution lists only three qualifications for the Presidency — the President must be 1) at least 35 years of age, 2) be a natural born citizen, and 3) must have lived in the United States for at least 14 years.

Age, natural born citizenship and the length of years of residency, but not a clean record is required.
the Consitution doesn't prohibit convicted felons from running for office.

A person can be disqualified by conviction in a Senate impeachment trial, but a criminal conviction does not affect eligibility.

Prison is not a bar to running for federal office, either. In 1798, Rep. Matthew Lyon ran for Congress from prison and won. He assumed his seat in Congress after serving four months in prison for “libeling” President John Adams. An effort was made to expel Lyon from the House, but it failed.

Ultimately, it is up to the House or Senate chamber to determine whether or not an elected official is qualified to serve if a challenge is raised.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...for-president/

https://www.voanews.com/a/can-felons...-/7014217.html

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/11/felons-in-office/

[aja_christopher]

I have said this before.

Even if the Fulton County District Attorney or the Manhattan D.A. Alvin Bragg can get Trump convicted of these charges, he can still run for office, even from behind bars.

No one has said he can't.

[BeastieRunner]

Eugene V. Debs, the socialist did it.

So did that conspiracy nutcase in the 90s.

[Madam-Shogun-Assassin]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/06/us/co...ico/index.html



Are you reading something I'm not?

E: This is me being stone-cold serious, as I agree this is a dangerous precedent to be trying to set. Carr's overreaching here on every front he can and it's certainly egregious, but if there's a connection to Democrats here I can't see it.

I'm sorry, I meant in terms of building cop city.

[Tendrin]

The whole attack on the 'Cop City' protestors is pretty bad, yeah.

[Tendrin]

California's State Assembly voted in favor of House Resolution 57 on Wednesday, establishing that August will be recognized as Transgender History Month starting in 2024 — and making it the first state to honor trans history with such a designation.

The legislation cites California’s long-ranging significance in trans history, starting with Spanish colonizers’ “suppression of gender variance” among indigenous people, which the resolution says was “a foundational event of the history of the state.” It also cites the Stonewall precursor Compton’s Cafeteria Riot, Lou Sullivan’s trailblazing activism on behalf of trans men, and the establishment of the Transgender District in San Francisco in 2017, among many other events.

“California has long been the epicenter of the trans liberation movement,” the resolution reads. “Supporting the transgender community by designating August as Transgender History Month will create a culture led by research, education, and scholarly recognition of the contributions of transgender Californians to our great state’s history, and will educate future generations of Californians on the importance of this history.”

'bout time.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...185428462.html

[Tendrin]

On Friday, the Florida Supreme Court heard arguments in a lawsuit that could trigger a six-week abortion ban, which would devastate access for people in the South. One Justice, Charles Canady, is intimately familiar with the ban because his wife, state Rep. Jennifer Canady (R), co-sponsored it—and he didn’t recuse himself from the case.

Barbara Pariente, a former chief justice of the Florida Supreme Court, said in June that Canady should step aside. “I know Justice Canady to be of the highest ethics,” Pariente said. “I cannot imagine himself not recusing himself from a bill that his wife co-sponsored.” But, like the U.S. Supreme Court, no one can make a justice recuse themselves. As one law professor told the Orlando Sentinel, “There is no one that can police a Florida Supreme Court justice and tell them that they need to recuse themselves. What we need is such an entity.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-dec...160236754.html

[Vakanai]

'bout time.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...185428462.html

Why do I suddenly feel in the next few months Republicans will pivot from talking about the "need" to ban abortion on a federal level to the "need" to make federal law against recognizing transgender people and forcing all to live as their biological sex?

[Powerboy]

I have said this before.

Even if the Fulton County District Attorney or the Manhattan D.A. Alvin Bragg can get Trump convicted of these charges, he can still run for office, even from behind bars. The Constitution lists only three qualifications for the Presidency — the President must be 1) at least 35 years of age, 2) be a natural born citizen, and 3) must have lived in the United States for at least 14 years.

Age, natural born citizenship and the length of years of residency, but not a clean record is required.
the Consitution doesn't prohibit convicted felons from running for office.

A person can be disqualified by conviction in a Senate impeachment trial, but a criminal conviction does not affect eligibility.

Prison is not a bar to running for federal office, either. In 1798, Rep. Matthew Lyon ran for Congress from prison and won. He assumed his seat in Congress after serving four months in prison for “libeling” President John Adams. An effort was made to expel Lyon from the House, but it failed.

Ultimately, it is up to the House or Senate chamber to determine whether or not an elected official is qualified to serve if a challenge is raised.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...for-president/

https://www.voanews.com/a/can-felons...-/7014217.html

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/11/felons-in-office/

I have heard the possibility that he would be ineligible if he gets convicted of sedition against the United States, in this case, by attempting to incite a riot to overthrow the results of a lawful election.

[BeastieRunner]

I have heard the possibility that he would be ineligible if he gets convicted of sedition against the United States, in this case, by attempting to incite a riot to overthrow the results of a lawful election.

Only if he's charged and found guilty of insurrection.

Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3:

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

[Tendrin]

Why do I suddenly feel in the next few months Republicans will pivot from talking about the "need" to ban abortion on a federal level to the "need" to make federal law against recognizing transgender people and forcing all to live as their biological sex?

The conservative 2025 project already includes language that would have the president effectively declaring transgender people pornographic and to be outlawed.



https://x.com/aridrennen/status/1699...niAdNXCNYHyD6Q

[Zauriel]

Only if he's charged and found guilty of insurrection.

Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3:

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

That is a federal charge. Neither the Manhattan D.A. nor the Fulton County D.A. are federal officials. Only a federal prosecutor can bring this kind of charge. Speaking of which, why hasn't Attorney General Garland still charged the Former Guy with insurrection, even though he has been working on this case for months?

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Who allowed shitstains like him to have a forum to spew nonsense like this:

Nick Fuentes: China should invade the US and put Black people in camps like the Uyghurs

[aja_christopher]

That is a federal charge. Neither the Manhattan D.A. nor the Fulton County D.A. are federal officials. Only a federal prosecutor can bring this kind of charge. Speaking of which, why hasn't Attorney General Garland still charged the Former Guy with insurrection, even though he has been working on this case for months?

[aja_christopher]