All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[Joker]

Never forget that people do terrible things to their children all the time. Sexual abuse. Murder. It isn't as uncommon as it should be. Nothing Conway is suggested of having done is unfathomable.

[babyblob]

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/...rs/6699536002/

I'm not absolving this cause I'm gobsmacked, but I think this is often lost in local conversations. Crime rarely happens cause folks are evil (though cases do exist). Crime usually happens cause folks are either desperate or believe they have nothing to lose.

I met a lot of people in my time at prison. There is such a mixed bag as to why people did what they did. But for the most part at least in the four years I was there. Most of The people in the prison including myself did what they did because they thought they could get away with it. Yes there were those addicted to drugs who had crimes based on that, but there were the robbery, theft, assault, attempted murder, for no other reason then then they wanted what someone had, got mad at a person and wanted to hurt them for whatever reason or just enjoy it hurting others.

Most of the desperate ones were the drug addicts. I have rarely seen an inmate who committed a crime because they were desperate and needed to pay bills or whatever.

There were some purely evil that even the other inmates and guards were nervous around.

Not everyone in prison is evil. but there were a lot of people who wanted nothing more then to be involved in crime. I heard a lot of I cant wait to get out so I can start selling again, or using again, or man I am going to beat the Hell out of the cop/person who turned me in etc...

There is a much and I mean much smaller population of inmates who use the time to look at their life and try and change. I had to be a repeat offender to get into this class. Sadly the resources available in terms of support from the prison and from other inmates who are encourging of this kind of change are so rare it is sickening.

[ShutUpLutz]

On this date one year ago, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” first profiled Steve Palazzo, the sitting U.S. House Representative for Missouri’s 4th Congressional District, who after serving five years in the Mississippi state legislature, was first elected to Congress in… what else? The 2010 Tea Party Wave. And, we have concerns about Steve Palazzo because of his close ties with the anti-gay hate group, the Family Research Council, and its lunatic leader, Tony Perkins.

It was back around 2013 that Palazzo really kicked the homophobia into overdrive, when he reacted strongly to the Boy Scouts of America planning to lift its ban on gay scout leaders by comparing it to his career fighting in the Marines. He said at the time that President Obama and “his highly organized liberal machine”had “unfairly attacked” the organization. “These people who are out there protesting and petitioning, I don’t think they care one thing about the Boy Scouts of America and want the organization to fail,[/I]” he insisted.

Palazzo did not dial back his homophobic comments until January of 2014, when he started up a Facebook campaign against "Gay Hollywood's version of matrimony" in response to that year’s Grammy Awards, where on air, Queen Latifah officiated 33 same sex marriages on air. As commenters on the thread began to point out how bigoted Palazzo was being, his people responded by not just deleting their comments, but blocking them.

So brave, Steve. So brave.

Steve Palazzo’s intolerance against the LGBTQ community is so ingrained that in November of 2013, when as a part of his defense of another anti-gay hate group, the American Family Association, it made him come to the logical conclusion that President Obama’s support of LGBTQ rights and that he signed the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” was clearly a sign that he was “doesn’t share the same Christian faith that we do”, as part of some backwards Birther logic. Because, y’know, if Obama is a secret Muslim, that would make him REALLY supportive of gay rights, y’know?

I PROMISE you this guy has fapped THOUSANDS of times to lesbian porn.

[BeastieRunner]

"Guys what are we going to talk about when Trump is gone!?"

*looks at the last 6 pages*

I think we have plenty now! At least it is more fruitful stuff like debating reforms and filibusters and not the generally awful stuff of the last 4 years like children in cages & ignoring a global pandemic.

Except that Conway stuff. That is really gross. If it ends up being true, I hope they throw the book at her.

[ShutUpLutz]

"Guys what are we going to talk about when Trump is gone!?"

*looks at the last 6 pages*

I think we have plenty now! At least it is more fruitful stuff like debating reforms and filibusters and not the generally awful stuff of the last 4 years like children in cages & ignoring a global pandemic.

Except that Conway stuff. That is really gross. If it ends up being true, I hope they throw the book at her.

So her daughter bears ZERO responsibility for taking a naked pic of herself?

Yeah, **** that noise.

[ShutUpLutz]

The thing that worries me is if Trump gets to speak at the trial. While it is his right, you know he'll take the opportunity to spew his insane ramblings all over the cable news stations that will carry the trial, which will just amp up his supporters even more.

Republicans in the Senate have no doubt seen and heard more than enough of Trumps speechifyin' the past five years to know that having him as a witness at his own trial would be an unmitigated disaster.

I've heard that much of the Democrats evidence at the trial will be footage of the riot at the Capitol.

[Kirby101]

If Trump speaks, will he have to answer questions from the Senators?

[babyblob]

If Trump speaks, will he have to answer questions from the Senators?

I figure it would be like any other trial. He can plead the 5th.

But would his ego let him? I gave a couple reason why I think he will not show up and talk a couple posts ago. It is because of those reasons I doubt he will willingly be there.

[ShutUpLutz]

If Trump speaks, will he have to answer questions from the Senators?

It depends on what the agreed upon rules for the impeachment say. During Clinton's trial, he had several character witnesses who gave speeches which basically said that while his behavior was distasteful and gross, it didn't rise to the level of conviction.

It should be noted that around the same time that Clinton was shoving a cigar up Lewinsky's snatch, Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich was getting his whanger sucked by his secretary in his car in a parking lot with the door open, so he, Gingrich had NO moral ground to stand on.

[The Cool Thatguy]

I had a friend who summarized the situation pretty well, I thought

"Yeah, even if she did hack Kelly's account, there's no way this resulted from a situation that's healthy for Claudia, and that is firmly Kelly's responsibility."

My thoughts exactly.

[The Cool Thatguy]

It depends on what the agreed upon rules for the impeachment say. During Clinton's trial, he had several character witnesses who gave speeches which basically said that while his behavior was distasteful and gross, it didn't rise to the level of conviction.

It should be noted that around the same time that Clinton was shoving a cigar up Lewinsky's snatch, Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich was getting his whanger sucked by his secretary in his car in a parking lot with the door open, so he, Gingrich had NO moral ground to stand on.

His wife had cancer at the time too, IIRC. And wasn't the GOP majority leader at the time molesting kids?

[BeastieRunner]

So Bannon and Manafort's pardons might not stick.

They are incredibly narrow and 10 of Manafort's charges were hung and 8 of Bannon's. They were not covered in the pardon. So an AG or prosecutor could swoop in and finish those cases.

And the pardons failed to protect from future charges a la Nixon's pardon.

[BeastieRunner]

So her daughter bears ZERO responsibility for taking a naked pic of herself?

Yeah, **** that noise.

If your kid skips school and goes to truancy court for it, guess who gets charged, too, and has to appear in court? The parent ...

When your kid breaks the law, more often than not, the parent(s) will share culpability unless proven in court.

In this matter, we have the parent posting child porn of her daughter.

What if the parent took the picture? What if it came from blackmail? What if it was the child that took it?

Even if the last one is true, the parent is the party that posted it meaning both the child and parent will be charged with trafficking, processing, and sharing child porn.

All that is for the detective and court to find out. Then a jury to determine where guilt lies.

There is clearly something awful going on in that house.

Its not the parents fault she took the pic. RThat is a poor choice many teens and Hell adults do. But the something bad you are talking about is a parent posting a nude picture of her 16 year old daughter online. Which falls under pretty much every state as child porn. For her to even process that picture is a crime let alone posting it for everyone to see.

I had a friend who summarized the situation pretty well, I thought

"Yeah, even if she did hack Kelly's account, there's no way this resulted from a situation that's healthy for Claudia, and that is firmly Kelly's responsibility."

My thoughts exactly.

My dude...

You're new. Everybody gets one.

Lets not equate a child taking a nude picture with a mother posting that picture on twitter.

All the bolded pieces are excellent points.

[worstblogever]

So Bannon and Manafort's pardons might not stick.

They are incredibly narrow and 10 of Manafort's charges were hung and 8 of Bannon's. They were not covered in the pardon. So an AG or prosecutor could swoop in and finish those cases.

And the pardons failed to protect from future charges a la Nixon's pardon.

[BeastieRunner]

LOL!

Apparently, some of the other people like Flynn who got a wider-ranging pardon that was Nixon-esque, looks to be tested.

That turkey, Corn, he pardoned better watch out!