All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[Spidey5640]

You implied that Biden let an American rot for 4 years, when clearly Trump failed at bringing the man home even though he literally has had sex with Putin.

Implied nothing, pointed out the facts of the deal Biden made. All you suffering from TDS brought up Trump, which is what you do when confronted with a point about another failure of the current President. Can't defend based on facts, you deflect. Still happy one American is coming home.

[Spidey5640]

Even now, Trump has had a longer time to have done something than Biden has, seeing that the two year mark for Biden is a little under a month away.

Even now....Trump isn't President. Just pointing that out..

[Dalak]

Its not deflection at all. You pointed out there is a person in Russian Prison that has been there for 4 years and blame Biden for not bringing him home. Trump had two years to bring him home but you do not bring up that point. You would rather blame Biden for not bringing him home in the two years he has been in office when Trump who also had two years to bring the man home also did not.

It is not deflection to point out facts in an example you brought up.

Trump also still brags about how much of a better relationship he had with Putin, what was stopping him from getting him back?

[numberthirty]

Implied nothing, pointed out the facts of the deal Biden made. All you suffering from TDS brought up Trump, which is what you do when confronted with a point about another failure of the current President. Can't defend based on facts, you deflect. Still happy one American is coming home.

The "Failure..." could only take place because the guy in question was not even addressed(never mind his freedom actually being secured...) during the previous administration.

If you do not see the "Defense..." there?

It is because the blinders are on pretty darn tight.

The fact that the inept(assuming we can agree on their ineptitude. Which is not a lock...) are having to deal with this in an inept fashion is absolutely because it was dropped into their lap by a previous administration. That is the reality of the thing.

If you clean up your own mess?

The job that the next guy does cleaning up a mess is a complete non-issue.

That's the facts.

[Spidey5640]

The "Failure..." could only take place because the guy in question was not even addressed(never mind his freedom actually being secured...) during the previous administration.

If you do not see the "Defense..." there?

It is because the blinders are on pretty darn tight.

The fact that the inept(assuming we can agree on their ineptitude. Which is not a lock...) are having to deal with this in an inept fashion is absolutely because it was dropped into their lap by a previous administration. That is the reality of the thing.

If you clean up your own mess?

The job that the next guy does cleaning up a mess is a complete non-issue.

That's the facts.

The "guy in question" is Biden, not Trump, not Whelan. Biden was the one to cut the deal. The deal that didn't include Whelan. The only blinders worn are by those who cannot objectively judge the person CURRENTLY in the White House and therefore fall back to deflecting to "What about Trump when..."

[CaptainEurope]

Yea but he was arrested when trump was in office. You're just parroting whatever the far right tells you to parrot.

In Trump's defense, he released 5000 Taliban and in exchange got..

... checks note ...

I guess a great deal on his car insurance? Anyone?

[Jack Dracula]

The "guy in question" is Biden, not Trump, not Whelan. Biden was the one to cut the deal. The deal that didn't include Whelan. The only blinders worn are by those who cannot objectively judge the person CURRENTLY in the White House and therefore fall back to deflecting to "What about Trump when..."

Your disappointment with the deal Biden brokered to fix the problem Trump ignored has been noted. Run along now, I’m sure recess is almost over.

[numberthirty]

The "guy in question" is Biden, not Trump, not Whelan. Biden was the one to cut the deal. The deal that didn't include Whelan. The only blinders worn are by those who cannot objectively judge the person CURRENTLY in the White House and therefore fall back to deflecting to "What about Trump when..."

"When..."

Trump absolutely could have addressed it during his Presidency making it a non-issue in the "Here And Now..."

It is only anything like an objectively "Bad..." deal because Biden was handed a less than optimal set of circumstances to try to negotiate a good deal in.

[babyblob]

The "guy in question" is Biden, not Trump, not Whelan. Biden was the one to cut the deal. The deal that didn't include Whelan. The only blinders worn are by those who cannot objectively judge the person CURRENTLY in the White House and therefore fall back to deflecting to "What about Trump when..."

If you blame Biden for Not getting Whelan back then you also have to blame the guy that had to 2+ years to get him back and also did not. So if its Biden's Fault Whelan is still in Russia it is also the fault of Trump.

[AnakinFlair]

You implied that Biden let an American rot for 4 years, when clearly Trump failed at bringing the man home even though he literally has had sex with Putin.

Well, thanks for THAT mental image. As I eat lunch.

[CaptainEurope]

Well, thanks for THAT mental image. As I eat lunch.

Many people say one could smell the santorum in Helsinki.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Many people say one could smell the santorum in Helsinki.

Trump had that “My name is Reek” look all over his face.

[babyblob]

The fact is that the Right is made that Whelan got "left behind." In their words while a gay female woman of color is coming home that they are doing everything they can to find fault in the deal.

Ive heard everything from "He gave up a war criminal for a basketball player." "She broke the law and Whelan didnt do anything." To "Trump would have brought him home." Then when asked why Trump didnt bring him home when he had they chance they do what Spidey is doing and accuse the person of deflection.

The fact is an American is coming home and that is what we should be happy about.

And I am pretty sure they are still talking to bring Whelan home. But releasing a basketball player vs a former military man isnt as big of a deal for putin.

[Kirby101]

What we see here is the Right are soulless ghouls. When Ted Cruz's daughter had troubles, nobody on the left rejoices. But Paul Pelosi? Belittle and mock from the Right. Griner is released, say it's not worth it, attack Biden because??? Don't celebrate her coming home. Soulless.

[worstblogever]

On this date in 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, as well as 2021, “Fanatical Republican Extremist of the Day posted profiles of the U.S. House Representative from Kentucky’s 4th Congressional District, Thomas Massie, who you would expect to be reasonably intelligent, what with a successful tech company with two dozen patents to his credit and a Master’s Degree from MIT. Sadly, though, Massie at some point became a disciple of Ron Paul, even apparently trying to emulate Rand Paul’s awful hairstyle so he can blend in as a member of the family. Massie’s dedication to libertarian smaller government to an extent that you wonder if he’s doing it in the hopes that it’s some sort of magic ritual to get Ayn Rand to rise from the grave. But three weeks after the Newtown shootings, and as the new session of Congress began after it, Massie had the unmitigated gall to submit a bill to allow guns in school zones, by repealing a law passed by the first Bush administration and supported by the NRA at its passage. He also shrugged and claimed that the nine victims of Dylann Roof at the Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, South Carolina were to blame for their own deaths because the church had "disallowed guns", which is goddamned awful. He has voted against the new version of the Violence Against Women Act, Hurricane Sandy Relief, and is one of only 3 people in Congress to have voted against the Stolen Valor Act, all because he thinks the government should instead do NOTHING. And he’s unafraid of being the one lone vote against any and all legislation, like when he was the lone vote against naming Israel as a strategic partner of the United States. He voted for the 2013 Government Shutdown and called the compromise over the fiscal cliff as “a really big turd sandwich without the bread”. But on top over everything else, we noted Massie has the quality of his hero Ron Paul where he hitches his caboose onto anti-government conspiracy theories, including falsely claiming the military gave a “stand down” order during the attack on the U.S. embassy in Benghazi and alluding to “knowing the truth” about 9/11 that would change everything Americans know about that dark day, and wanting the 28 page report about it declassified completely. Meanwhile, he’s the same moron who in April of 2017 who went on CNN to push back against reports that Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad gassed his own people again, saying, “I don’t think he could have done that.” In February of 2017, Rep. Massie co-sponsored legislation to attempt to eliminate the Environmental Protection Agency completely, and on October 10th, 2017 only days after a shooter in Las Vegas uses bump stocks in semi-automatic firearms to make them fully-automatic weapons and mass murder 58 people… Rep. Massie argued in favor of legalizing bump stocks nationwide, because apparently not enough people died in Vegas to appease his twisted libertarian worldview.

How are things looking for Thomas Massie in Kentucky? Do they love him there? Well, let’s put it this way, after that very libertarian vote he made against disaster relief aid for victims of Hurricane Harvey, the Northern Kentucky Chamber of Commerce literally called him an expletive on Twitter. That’s not some random liberal we’re talking about… a friggin’ Chamber of Commerce went with that. He’s been defending international dictators and endorsing pedophiles like Roy Moore for Senate.

Days after Thanksgiving 2018, Massie was mocking progressives for wanting Healthcare for All by arguing against the idea that human beings have a right to food:

”How long until someone runs on the platform of #FoodStampsForAll? If healthcare is a right, is food as well?”

Spoiler alert, the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights confirmed food was a human right. Also, Massie’s supposed influence, Jesus Christ, was rather vocal about the value of feeding the hungry, so…

This past year, Thomas Massie also embarrassed himself when he showed a lack of understanding about how Bachelor’s Degrees work as he bizarrely interrogated former Secretary of State John Kerry about it in a Congressional hearing in regards to climate change. For a painful stretch of minutes, Massie kept conflating social sciences with natural sciences, as everyone in the room, Kerry, wondered what the hell he was getting at.