All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[PaulBullion]

Since students of the world are probably not looking to a comic book message board for whatever the heck it is you are on about here?

It's looking like a complete non-issue.

We have no evidence that he is capable of doing better outside this message forum.

[sammy_hansen]

You said cancel culture doesn't exist, I gave you an example that it does. It's not the first time people have banned Star Wars Stormtrooper costumes because they are a symbol of white supremacy.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...r-wars-themed/

I could post wacko stuff like this all night but confirmation bias states I'd just reinforce the opposite opinion, and the last thing I want to do is turn you into a raging far left fanatic who thinks white writing paper promotes racism, your smarter than that.

Anyways good call on the Dixie Chicks, that is indeed a conservative example of cancel culture. Corporate radio has transformed country music into one fined tuned Republican values machine.

Nighty night boys, I'll let you have the last word, cheers.

And proud of it. Lily-livered chickenshit centrists are the reason transgender folk can get any decent rights around here.


Though, I also wonder, if Medicare For All is a far leftist policy, as I sit here living in my rage-fueled far left socialist dystopia of Australia.

[Username taken]

Is there really any equivalence between the far left and far right?

In the US, we've seen far-right extremists literally kill people for centuries based on their ideology. Maybe there's isolated cases on the far left but there isn't a far left ideology that coalesces into violence against minorities like you see on the far right. Right now, the far right is still calling for the elimination of certain people through coded language.

So, i'm not sure you can make a direct comparison between the far left and far right, the goals of the two groups don't have the same outcome.

[JackDaw]

Is there really any equivalence between the far left and far right?

Depends what you mean by “equivalence” I suppose.

I think it would be difficult to argue that America’s far left is as numerous and damaging as Amercas far left.

But there have been incredibly toxic far left regimes, and worldwide terrorist groups driven by far left ideology.

I think quite often that mainstream American politics has swung so far right, that ideas (like universal health or sensible gun control) that would be regarded elsewhere as just common sense humane positions are bizarrely regarded as “far left”.

Defined that way of course...there is no equivalence. But if you define “far left“ as the idea that every activity has to be closely controlled and owned by the state....with individual freedom severely limited...then I think it’s equally damaging to everyday life as far right ideas.

[Steel Inquisitor]

Is there really any equivalence between the far left and far right?

Yes.

In the US, we've seen far-right extremists literally kill people for centuries based on their ideology. Maybe there's isolated cases on the far left but there isn't a far left ideology that coalesces into violence against minorities like you see on the far right. Right now, the far right is still calling for the elimination of certain people through coded language.

The far left does have their own problems with racism, like with Momentum in the UK. The far left does have coded language and in many cases will not make it. Purging landlords, for instance. The far left also has problems policing itself online and in their own groups, anarchist groups have huge difficulties with protecting sexual predators and sexism is rampant. This isn't solely about ideology, it's about being able to implement it and the far left are notorious for being bad at it. Not every member is like that, of course, but more often not they'll go into dogma over structure.

So, i'm not sure you can make a direct comparison between the far left and far right, the goals of the two groups don't have the same outcome.

A big difference is that the far right has power, if the far left get the same sort of power we'll all end up against the wall anyway. See the USSR, Castro's Cuba, Venezuela, China.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

The whole crying against cancel culture by guys like Trump is very hypocritical considering he did everything to publicly condemn the exonerated five back in the day. Ultimately, cancel culture as it’s been framed by the right isn’t a thing. What’s happening now is that people are facing the consequences of saying or doing dumb ****....and a lot of these people were in days past seemingly immune to cancel culture.

Mention the Central Park Five to Trump, and he'll STILL want them put to death, the ultimate example of cancel culture.

[Gotham citizen]

[…]
In the US, we've seen far-right extremists literally kill people for centuries based on their ideology. Maybe there's isolated cases on the far left but there isn't a far left ideology that coalesces into violence against minorities like you see on the far right.
[…]

Actually is the contrary: the left recurs systematically to the violence and the persecution, in order to eliminate everyones who don't share their ideas; for example in the Soviet Union we had the persecution of the Cossacks, of the homosexuals, of the Christians. Here in Italy the far leftist use slogan like: «The history has taught to us that kill a fascist isn't a crime» (they call "fascist" everyone who doesn't agree with them) and often they try to take the action with aggressions, intimidations and various kind of terroristic attack, like send to the "enemies of the people" (to use their words) parcel bomb.
Not only but the all the left incites systematically to the violence against their political opponents, like the Italian writer and political activist Lidia Ravera did when she wrote the article "Condoleezza Rice ed i nuovi femminismi" (Condoleezza Rice and the new feminisms); I quote the first and the last sentences of the paper:
«She is a n…, nobody can doubt about that.
[…]
She is the supreme leader of the monkey women and I would love shoot to her head.»
And when she was criticized because the racist words she used and because she was suggesting to kill a person only because she doesn't think like she does, she was defended by the entire Italian Democratic Party because (I quote again): «She didn't criticize Condoleezza Rice because she is n…, but because she is everything a woman shouldn't be for the feminists»; yes, they give exactly that justification.

[Username taken]

Actually is the contrary: the left recurs systematically to the violence and the persecution, in order to eliminate everyones who don't share their ideas; for example in the Soviet Union we had the persecution of the Cossacks, of the homosexuals, of the Christians. Here in Italy the far leftist use slogan like: «The history has taught to us that kill a fascist isn't a crime» (they call "fascist" everyone who doesn't agree with them) and often they try to take the action with aggressions, intimidations and various kind of terroristic attack, like send to the "enemies of the people" (to use their words) parcel bomb.
Not only but the all the left incites systematically to the violence against their political opponents, like the Italian writer and political activist Lidia Ravera did when she wrote the article "Condoleezza Rice ed i nuovi femminismi" (Condoleezza Rice and the new feminisms); I quote the first and the last sentences of the paper:
«She is a n…, nobody can doubt about that.
[…]
She is the supreme leader of the monkey women and I would love shoot to her head.»
And when she was criticized because the racist words she used and because she was suggesting to kill a person only because she doesn't think like she does, she was defended by the entire Italian Democratic Party because (I quote again): «She didn't criticize Condoleezza Rice because she is n…, but because she is everything a woman shouldn't be for the feminists»; yes, they give exactly that justification.

Is there really any equivalence between the far left and far right?

In the US, we've seen far-right extremists literally kill people for centuries based on their ideology. Maybe there's isolated cases on the far left but there isn't a far left ideology that coalesces into violence against minorities like you see on the far right. Right now, the far right is still calling for the elimination of certain people through coded language.

So, i'm not sure you can make a direct comparison between the far left and far right, the goals of the two groups don't have the same outcome.

The bolded part.

[Gotham citizen]

Can you give me some examples of those killing based on ideology that were perpetuated for centuries in the U.S.A.?

[Username taken]

Mention the Central Park Five to Trump, and he'll STILL want them put to death, the ultimate example of cancel culture.

Exactly.

Trump still defends his ridiculous stance to this DAY.

[Ragged Maw]

Mention the Central Park Five to Trump, and he'll STILL want them put to death, the ultimate example of cancel culture.

Cancel culture: David Shor's firing

racism/ignorance-fueled bloodlust: Trump's quadrupling down on the CP5

[Tendrin]

Can you give me some examples of those killing based on ideology that were perpetuated for centuries in the U.S.A.?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

it was surprisingly easy. And that's just lynchings of African Americans.

[Username taken]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

it was surprisingly easy. And that's just lynchings of African Americans.

I deliberately didn’t reply.

It’s common knowledge how acts of violence have perpetuated against minorities. To this very day.

[Tendrin]

I deliberately didn’t reply.

It’s common knowledge how acts of violence have perpetuated against minorities. To this very day.

I mean, you're right. The dude is a sealion.

[KOSLOX]

Iowa now has the highest per capita cases of COVID in the nation.

Thanks for all your diligence in combating this, Covid Kim.

Doing absolutely nothing was clearly the right move.