Duterte like many populists and autocrats came to power largely because of the economic shockwave that was caused by the great recession, and he has been sliding the country towards autocracy ever since. Yes he's been playing both sides off against each other, but it should be noted that he's rejected aid packages from the West on several occasions, because they try to enforce human rights concerns in return. No such strings are attached from autocratic countries.
As for the greatest imprint of the West in the far East, it doesn’t matter who implemented it first, what matters if there is a system of western democracy that provides wealth and freedom. If you want to play that game though, than you may want to look at Japan whose constitution was written by the United States and overseen by General MacArthur, or allow the people of Hong Kong to vote if they want to go back to being a British colony, it's not hard to predict what would happen.
Imagine if every country who was negotiating a trade deal with the US demanded that we abolish our racist police departments first, you think any president would accept a deal like that? Western democracy provides wealth and freedom for a small minority of countries by exploiting the resources and labor of everyone else on the planet. The fact that a handful of countries in Asia have managed to join the ranks of the exploiters doesn't really stack up when you compare that to the utter failure of democratic experiments in South Asia, the Middle East, Latin America, Africa, and even parts of Europe. How did spreading democracy in Iraq, Libya, and Syria work out? What about Bolivia after the coup that ousted the "dictator" Morales? Some of the worst autocrats like Duterte, Modi, and Bolsonaro all won elections fair and square. And the fact that some Hong Kong people see themselves as British rather than Chinese is hardly a point in favor of imperialism, it just means that the British were particularly good at using identity politics to divide and conquer, just like they did in India, Ireland, Palestine, and everywhere else they ruled. Don't you think that if just letting people vote and opening up your markets to trade actually worked the way that the West claims it does, that more countries would have just done that by now? Why bother with all these fringe political movements and ideologies if you can just copy what works for America and get the same results?
Last edited by PwrdOn; 07-01-2020 at 05:06 PM.
Since when is unity a bad thing? I'm old enough to recall there were times when it actually happened. A GOP President was in office when the EPA was created, the draft ended and the voting age was lowered to 18. Yeah, that was Nixon. At least the jerk was good for something.
Hi PwrdOn I think it's about time you PwrdOff.
There is no point debating you, because your such an ideologue that you just hunker down even deeper into your beliefs that the west is evil incarnate, I wasn't even going to respond to your interjection, but you made a rather crass racial statement that I was not going to let slide. This has become so far removed from the person I was originally responding to, so I will leave you with this....
Ask the people of Japan if they would rather adopt China's Marxist government or keep their western democracy....see how that works for you.
Ask the people of South Korea if they would rather leave their country to live in North Korea...see how that works for you.
Ask the people of Singapore and Malaysia if they would rather adopt the government of Laos...see how that works for you.
but more importantly, ask the people of Hong Kong if they would rather remain under Chinese rule or be placed in the hands of Taiwan or the British, because sadly it's lights out for democracy in Hong Kong...something I know you will cheer.
Over a third of the Toledo City Council has just been arrested on bribery charges.
Four members of the Toledo City Council have been accused of accepting bribes while in office, according to court documents obtained by 13abc on Tuesday.
At least three of those council members have been placed into federal custody. 13abc crews were on the scene as council members Larry Sykes and Yvonne Harper were placed into custody. Federal documents also implicate council members Gary Johnson and Tyrone Riley.
According to a criminal complaint filed with the U.S. District Court, Councilman Sykes faces complaints of "Reciept of Bribe by Agent of Organization Receiving Federal Funds" and "Hobbs Act Extortion Under Color of Official Right." In the affidavit filed along with the complaint, council members Harper, Riley, and Jonson are also named as subjects.
According to the affidavit, in early 2018, the FBI began an investigation into members of Toledo City Council, suspecting members of accepting or soliciting bribes in exchange for votes.
The documents reveal an unnamed source who owns several commercial properties, primarily gas stations and convenience stores in Toledo, pointed the finger at councilman Tyrone Riley.
The alleged pay for votes scheme then unraveled over the next two years and according to the feds involved Yvonne Harper, Larry Sykes, and Gary Johnson.
The court documents detail how each of the council members allegedly accepted payments in the range of five hundred to five thousand dollars for 'yes' votes on zoning requests to internet cafes.
Additionally, Councilwoman Harper is accused of using a local attorney, Keith Mitchell, to solicit and accept bribe payments on her behalf.
Council members are not banned from engaging in city business, but are prohibited from private communications with those involved in this case.
If convicted the council members could face 10 years for bribery and 20 years for extortion along with 250-thousand dollars in fines.
"These allegations reveal greed, sure and simple. They also reveal a violation of public trust."
In a statement released on Tuesday, Toledo mayor Wade Kapszukiewicz said he was "shocked and heartbroken" by the arrests, calling it a "terrible day for Toledo — and for everyone who believes in the good that can be accomplished through public service"
Sincerely,
Thomas Mets
God, I miss when people actually did engage in talks instead of aiming for each other's throats. We managed to get stuff done!
Now, if you want to be considered "moderate", you're viewed as wishy-washy or rooting for the other team. Granted, there are still people on both the Democratic and Republican parties that absolutely don't belong (Collin Peterson is the most obvious Republican in Democrat's Clothing, while Ruben Diaz Jr., well-known for New Yorkers, is only becoming more known for national audiences for the exact same reasons), but the idea of extreme partisanship makes it difficult to feel like anything can be productive.
Problem is, she's clearly a leftist that firmly believes all Democrats are centrist at best and conservative at worst. I've seen this. Leftism goes beyond liberalism to where even the most left-wing members of the Democratic Party aren't good enough; no, you want Green and Socialist Party people elected.
Unfortunately, I've taken several political evaluation tests, and I'm clearly on that leftist/liberal fringe, but even I know those parties are nothing but pitiful, do-good losers. If you want results, you're gonna have to stick to the Democratic Party. You can't just be that ideologically pure and keep arguing that, and I have seen this from people on YouTube like PhilosophyTube, Biden will be worse than Trump; we have seen Trump's America, and not the warped, fantasy version Dinesh D'Souza is going to make in a few years to defend the *******.
And, yes, I know I voted for Johnson in 2016. I won't make that mistake again.
Last edited by GindyPosts; 07-01-2020 at 08:47 PM.
Well, you pretty much pissed him off by highlighting the fact those cultures live their own way, and we're not allowed to just barge right in and do what we want. I've communicated with several Japanese people in the past, and culturally, you can't just be American to them; it doesn't work that way.
But, since you went and pushed his buttons, have a Coke on me.
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Alabama students throwing 'COVID parties' to see who gets infected: Officials
Students in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, who have been diagnosed with COVID-19 have been attending parties in the city and surrounding area as part of a disturbing contest to see who can catch the virus first, a city council member told ABC News on Wednesday.
Tuscaloosa City Councilor Sonya McKinstry said students have been organizing "COVID parties" as a game to intentionally infect each other with the contagion that has killed more than 127,000 people in the United States. She said she recently learned of the behavior and informed the city council of the parties occurring in the city.
She said the organizers of the parties are purposely inviting guests who have COVID-19.
"They put money in a pot and they try to get COVID. Whoever gets COVID first gets the pot. It makes no sense," McKinstry said. "They're intentionally doing it."
Tuscaloosa Fire Chief Randy Smith told the City Council on Tuesday that he has confirmed the students' careless behavior.
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Here in Indiana, we're waiting until August before tempting fate, what with the Indy 500 (still blacked out, so you gotta come to see it live, unfortunately!) and something called the "Fairgrounds Fun Fest" that replaced the Indiana State Fair.
In the South, they're not even trying to stop it with the sickness.