All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[The Cool Thatguy]

I know Trump's an idiot, but did he really not have anyone who could properly fill out the forms for him?

[BeastieRunner]

I know Trump's an idiot, but did he really not have anyone who could properly fill out the forms for him?

I think you already know the answer.

The self-owns continue.

[The Cool Thatguy]

I think you already know the answer.

The self-owns continue.

Yeah, I guess so.

As a stupid question about a stupid idiot...

[Adam Allen]

I met a lot of people in my time at prison. There is such a mixed bag as to why people did what they did. But for the most part at least in the four years I was there. Most of The people in the prison including myself did what they did because they thought they could get away with it. Yes there were those addicted to drugs who had crimes based on that, but there were the robbery, theft, assault, attempted murder, for no other reason then then they wanted what someone had, got mad at a person and wanted to hurt them for whatever reason or just enjoy it hurting others.

Most of the desperate ones were the drug addicts. I have rarely seen an inmate who committed a crime because they were desperate and needed to pay bills or whatever.

There were some purely evil that even the other inmates and guards were nervous around.

Not everyone in prison is evil. but there were a lot of people who wanted nothing more then to be involved in crime. I heard a lot of I cant wait to get out so I can start selling again, or using again, or man I am going to beat the Hell out of the cop/person who turned me in etc...

There is a much and I mean much smaller population of inmates who use the time to look at their life and try and change. I had to be a repeat offender to get into this class. Sadly the resources available in terms of support from the prison and from other inmates who are encourging of this kind of change are so rare it is sickening.

Not to get all up in your grill or anything, but haven't you talked about having a mental illness, too? I am not trying to dismiss everything else you're saying, but it seems like you're kind of painting this picture of people just choosing to be criminals, simply bad choices, and not more to it. Given the massively negative repercussions, it's kind of hard to buy people making that choice, just because.

[Mister Mets]

The thing that worries me is if Trump gets to speak at the trial. While it is his right, you know he'll take the opportunity to spew his insane ramblings all over the cable news stations that will carry the trial, which will just amp up his supporters even more.

Trump speaking on trial would open him up to criminal charges if he perjures himself.

[BeastieRunner]

Trump speaking on trial would open him up to criminal charges if he perjures himself.

Let him speak! I mean, he can't Tweet so let him speak at trial! It is his First Amendment right!

That will end well, right?

[WestPhillyPunisher]

No where did I imply or say that.

If your kid skips school and goes to truancy court for it, guess who gets charged, too, and has to appear in court? The parent ...

When your kid breaks the law, more often than not, the parent(s) will share culpability unless proven in court.

In this matter, we have the parent posting child porn of her daughter.

What if the parent took the picture? What if it came from blackmail? What if it was the child that took it?

Even if the last one is true, the parent is the party that posted it meaning both the child and parent will be charged with trafficking, processing, and sharing child porn.

All that is for the detective and court to find out. Then a jury to determine where guilt lies.

There is clearly something awful going on in that house.

And then some. I feel dirty just READING about everything going on in this sordid story.

[babyblob]

Not to get all up in your grill or anything, but haven't you talked about having a mental illness, too? I am not trying to dismiss everything else you're saying, but it seems like you're kind of painting this picture of people just choosing to be criminals, simply bad choices, and not more to it. Given the massively negative repercussions, it's kind of hard to buy people making that choice, just because.

I do have a mental health disorder. And there were several people in prison with mental health disorders. But that does not excuse my or anyone else's criminal acts. Did the mental health issues make it hard at the time to make good choices yes. But there were people in with me who did what they did, the theft the selling drugs because they did not want to get a job and it was easy money. People who committed assault because they didnt like what a guy had to say at a bar, or they were robbing a person who had the nerve to fight back. So yes while mental illness does play a role in crimes there really are people who are in prison because they flat out chose to do what they did out of greed and selfishness. I am in that group. I did what I did for no other reason then I wanted to do it and I thought i could get away with it.

I know there are a lot of people who want to come up with reasons on why people commit crimes and want to explain it away because that makes them feel better about the world not being as dark as it is and people who can not do such things without a reason. That every criminal is one program away from being cured. But that is not the case.

Listen to how we talked and bragged of our crimes to each other. Listen to how we talked when there was no judge, cop or social worker listening. Most people are in prison because they belonged to be there myself included. There can be an argument for drug abuse or simple drug charges. There were people there on bs stuff. But just as many were much worse.

For the inmates and people who do want to change the resources in prison are not great. but once released there are programs as far as counseling, job programs and housing help that are available. It does take hard work but when I hear a criminal in my state, or my county say the help is not there that is just not true. It just takes work, and it is frustrating but it can work. I am 6 and a half years out of prison and I am in a good stable place. And I know others in my area and across the state who are also doing well. Just face the fact you wont get the best job, or the best place to live. At least not until you build up a post prison history.

[Hellion]

Let him speak! I mean, he can't Tweet so let him speak at trial! It is his First Amendment right!

That will end well, right?

LOL I almost feel like inviting Trump to speak at his own trial should be entrapment. Because EVERYONE knows he can't do so without damning himself.

[babyblob]

LOL I almost feel like inviting Trump to speak at his own trial should be entrapment. Because EVERYONE knows he can't do so without damning himself.

I thinking the rating on the coverage if he speaks would be sky high. How many people want to see him implode on national tv under oath around a hostile crowd of senators.

[DrNewGod]

I do have a mental health disorder. And there were several people in prison with mental health disorders. But that does not excuse my or anyone else's criminal acts. Did the mental health issues make it hard at the time to make good choices yes. But there were people in with me who did what they did, the theft the selling drugs because they did not want to get a job and it was easy money. People who committed assault because they didnt like what a guy had to say at a bar, or they were robbing a person who had the nerve to fight back. So yes while mental illness does play a role in crimes there really are people who are in prison because they flat out chose to do what they did out of greed and selfishness. I am in that group. I did what I did for no other reason then I wanted to do it and I thought i could get away with it.

I know there are a lot of people who want to come up with reasons on why people commit crimes and want to explain it away because that makes them feel better about the world not being as dark as it is and people who can not do such things without a reason. That every criminal is one program away from being cured. But that is not the case.

Listen to how we talked and bragged of our crimes to each other. Listen to how we talked when there was no judge, cop or social worker listening. Most people are in prison because they belonged to be there myself included. There can be an argument for drug abuse or simple drug charges. There were people there on bs stuff. But just as many were much worse.

For the inmates and people who do want to change the resources in prison are not great. but once released there are programs as far as counseling, job programs and housing help that are available. It does take hard work but when I hear a criminal in my state, or my county say the help is not there that is just not true. It just takes work, and it is frustrating but it can work. I am 6 and a half years out of prison and I am in a good stable place. And I know others in my area and across the state who are also doing well. Just face the fact you wont get the best job, or the best place to live. At least not until you build up a post prison history.

Glad you came through BB.

[babyblob]

Glad you came through BB.

Thank you. it took a lot of work as I said. I am a repeat offender. The first time I just did county time the second I went to prison. I fell very much in to the trap that it was everyone else fault that I was where I was. I was three years into a four year prison term that I decided to change my act and that only came after being sent to the hospital after a bad fight. When I got out I was homeless for a month until I got into a half way house. But when I was in the house I spent my 8 months there busting my ass with programs, working a job, finding a place to live, getting mental health counseling. Very hard but it did work.

Sorry to rant I did not mean to high jack the thread. But prisons and the people I met and what I went through is a topic I can go on and on about. I will talk about them to any one willing to ask. I am ashamed of my crime but not my experience because I feel that maybe I can do some good from it.
The good thing is my experiences and talking about them with my nephew helped him get off a rough patch to avoid things that happened to me.

[Hellion]

Goddamn Republicans. 45 of 'em just voted that this second impeachment trial is unconstitutional.

I've got my minions at work making me a dartboard of Rand Paul's face.

[babyblob]

Goddamn Republicans. 45 of 'em just voted that this second impeachment trial is unconstitutional.

I've got my minions at work making me a dartboard of Rand Paul's face.

I think it is a sure bet now what the result of the trial will be. No more of this we have to see who will vote with the Dems because they are on the fence.

Any idea how Mitch voted?

[Panfoot]

Mitch sided with Paul, the 5 that didn't were Romney, Sasse, Collins, Murkowski, and Toomey, so no big surprises there.