The idea that the founders had no context for an ideology that wouldn't be religion has to be one of the straight up dumbest sentences uttered in this thread.
I'm kind of confused here. Do they want help from government regarding healthcare and other social benefits or not? Because it seems to me that on one hand, every social policy like universal healthcare or free education gets dismissed as "socialist", and is seen like one step before a communist regime like in China or Venezuela. On the other hand, they blame the government for not providing them with proper healthcare and financial help. Those two lines of thinking are opposing each other.
Especially considering that many of the were Deists, which has been described as Athiesm-lite.
The American founding fathers had their intellectual roots in the Enlightenment, a movement that came about as a result of the 30 Years War - started over some king deciding that everyone should convert to his faith when previous ones only demanded lip service at most.
Last edited by Gray Lensman; 01-24-2022 at 11:21 AM.
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Hispanic voters aren't a monolith. Many other ethnic groups in the US have a shared history that helps tie them together across lines of national (or tribal) origins, but I am not aware of anything like that for Hispanic Americans (of course, that is the view of a semi-educated white person whose best attribute here is a willingness to accept that he doesn’t know and learn from those who do - just so long as those trying to correct me don't confuse insults for teaching).
Dark does not mean deep.
Monarchy was the established system and it is Democracy that was the new belief which they would have been too close to think of as an ideology. Federalism came later where things like Publius were just a POV on ideas around Democracy which in turn was an extension of philosophy. The name The Federalist Papers emerged in the 20th century. By time we get to parties the Constitution was already in place. Communism, Socialism, Anarchism...later developments
"Ideology: a systematic body of concepts about human life or culture; the integrated assertions, theories that constitute a sociopolitical programme."
True, but it seems like Hispanic voters especially seem to confuse people that way. There are a couple dozen countries where they trace their roots to, each with its own unique history that is remembered, in addition to the generational differences that all groups have. Basically, the word "Hispanic" covers a continent and a half, you don't get a monolithic voting bloc out of that no matter how you look at things.
Dark does not mean deep.
Perfectly said.
Many that come from countries with a history of large government control, or even military-controlled government, are very vocal about being against socialism. South Florida has a lot of residents with this view.
I posted the article about NJ in response to the radio ads that were mentioned (which are indeed a problem). They weren't necessarily asking for bigger government, but more of a focused response to their community regarding covid. A large portion of the Hispanic population in NJ work in construction and hospitality so "working from home" wasn't an available option during lockdowns. From what the quoted individuals were saying, they felt they fell through the cracks.
As others mentioned, more outreach to the community is important and will help politicians understand the various views, stances, and needs. Because as Gray Lensman said, Hispanic voters are not a monolith.
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There have been a large number of competing schools of philosophical belief since the time of the ancient Greeks, and all well-educated Americans at the time of the Revolution would have been quite familiar with many of them. The founders certainly had plenty of context for incorporating both existing and new ideologies, religious and otherwise.
I love how Trumpers and the GOP are losing their minds over Biden insulting that reporter for Fox News. I am laughing so hard at how when Trump did it it was okay because they were mean to him. But Biden is being a bully for no reason. And that is not okay!
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There is some hypocrisy in the media treatment of it, with the idea that it's not treated the same way a similar statement by Trump would be treated.
Doocy had a funny response to this. "Nobody has fact checked him yet and says it's not true."
https://twitter.com/AlexThomp/status...47212600713219
The comment itself wasn't that serious. It humanizes the president, and shows his awareness of what's going on.
At the end of a Biden photo op, when reporters shouted Q's hoping he'd respond, Fox's Peter Doocy asked, "Do you think inflation is a political liability in the midterms?" Biden deadpanned: "It's a great asset—more inflation. What a stupid son of a bitch."
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