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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Still doesn't change that it is a part of the overall problem(folks directly related to government getting a hand while "Mom And Pops..." got shafted...)

    That it is less of an issue than some of the more glaring instances doesn't change that it is an issue.
    Agree. Good intentions turned over to the most corrupt Administration in history whose goal was to enrich friends rather than help people or the economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    I do believe that if Trump loses and goes scorched-Earth, the Republicans in office will push back. The Senate will not support him, his cabinet would invoke the 25th Amendment, and the Supreme Court will rule against him (if Gorsuch & Roberts are willing to say the 1964 Civil Rights bill affords employment protections to transgender individuals, they're not going to help a President who obviously lost reelection keep his job.) No one involved wants to end their political careers supporting an ineffective dictator who lost an election.
    Cool story Sis. Like they stopped supporting him during impeachment, or when he screwed the COVID response or when he turned a blind eye to bounty on American soldiers. Yeah the GOP sure shown their backbone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Agree. Good intentions turned over to the most corrupt Administration in history whose goal was to enrich friends rather than help people or the economy.
    Feels more like they went with "We Need To Get This Done Quickly..." than "We Need To Make Sure This Is Done Correctly..."

    While the administration certainly didn't help, it seems like Congress punted on having much in the way of oversight in exchange for looking like they were acting quickly.

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    Ohio state lawmaker calls for people to stop getting tested

    (CNN)An Ohio state lawmaker called for people to stop getting tested for coronavirus as he railed against a state health order requiring people in seven Ohio counties to wear masks in public spaces starting this week.

    "Are you tired of living in a dictatorship yet?" Republican state Rep. Nino Vitale wrote in a post on Facebook Tuesday after Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine, a Republican, announced the mask mandate. "This is what happens when people go crazy and get tested. STOP GETTING TESTED! It is giving the government an excuse to claim something is happening that is not happening at the magnitude they say it is happening."

    Vitale called into question why the new order wouldn't go into effect until Wednesday evening, saying "if this is such an urgent matter, why wait almost 30 hours? They make no sense. Stop listening to these frauds."

    CNN has reached out to Vitale for additional comment.
    There should be a special place for lawmakers who deny COVID and rail against masks along with other preventive measures.
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    Wait, did Trump win or lose? A seven-question FAQ on the Supreme Court’s ruling.

    On Thursday, the Supreme Court handed down a pair of rulings in cases where President Trump was seeking to keep others from obtaining his tax returns and private financial information.

    Here’s seven questions and seven answers about what happened:
    2. Did Trump win?

    In a legal sense, no.

    But in a political sense, the answer is yes.

    That’s because Trump only has to win one more election, this fall.

    And Thursday’s decisions made it unlikely voters will see his financial records before then — if they ever do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Feels more like they went with "We Need To Get This Done Quickly..." than "We Need To Make Sure This Is Done Correctly..."

    While the administration certainly didn't help, it seems like Congress punted on having much in the way of oversight in exchange for looking like they were acting quickly.
    There was oversight in the bill, demanded by the House. The Admin announced they would ignore it, and they did. There was urgency, as it was the fastest collapse of the economy in history. Unfortunately there was a GOP Senate and WH to contend with. Doing nothing was not an option. A clear display how both parties are not the same. Everything would be different if Hillary were Pres.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Cool story Sis. Like they stopped supporting him during impeachment, or when he screwed the COVID response or when he turned a blind eye to bounty on American soldiers. Yeah the GOP sure shown their backbone.
    I can see Mets' scenario happening if Trump loses big time. Many Republicans keep their lips pressed to his ass because they're afraid of the Republican base. The far right took over the party and they follow Trump like a messiah figure. But if the cracks start to show and he gets trounced in the election, I can imagine a number of Republicans jumping ship if it means saving their skins/political careers. After Bush left office in 2008, he was absolutely toxic. They didn't even want him to appear in person at the RNC. Trump will never be as unpopular as Bush was within his own party as he will always have a large contingent of white nationalists and conspiracy theorist on his side.

    I think it will really depend on what Fox News decides to do after he leaves office. They're all in with him right now, but if he's no longer profitable they may change the narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    There was oversight in the bill, demanded by the House. The Admin announced they would ignore it, and they did. There was urgency, as it was the fastest collapse of the economy in history. Unfortunately there was a GOP Senate and WH to contend with. Doing nothing was not an option. A clear display how both parties are not the same. Everything would be different if Hillary were Pres.
    You're not thinking outside of the buildings where those calls were made.

    I actually believe that Pelosi is smart enough to have said "When This Gets Handed Out, It Better Not Get Within A Mile Of Me..." or "Hey, You've Got A Point. This Fat Cash Should Not Have Got Within A Mile Of Me..."

    Instead, we got the usual "Hey, I tried..." bit.

    It's not like they have no means outside of what is actually on paper to make sure Democratic members of Congress take(or don't take...) taxpayer money that should have gone to small business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    Speaking of Cohen, now we have this book coming out from Trump's niece Mary who who has a doctoral degree in clinical psychology. How many friends, associates etc of Trump have thrown him under the bus either by writing a book or making negative statements about Trump after leaving his administration, etc? Cohen is someone who was a loyal henchman for Trump for years and flipped on him.

    Off the top of my head:

    • Michael Cohen
    • John Bolton
    • John Kelly
    • Rex Tillerson
    • General John Mattis
    • Anthony Scaramucci


    Who else?
    Omarosa Manigault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malvolio View Post
    Omarosa Manigault.
    In the rare instance that I think about that lady, "Loyal Henchman..." ain't exactly what comes to mind.

    It's more like "Someone With An Agenda Of Their Own Who Was Just Drafting In Hopes That They Would Wind Up In A Better Position..."

    Same for Scaramucci or Bolton.

    Even "Friend..."/"Associate..." feels like a stretch.

    Each one of them is more like Freddy in Freddy Vs. Jason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    In the rare instance that I think about that lady, "Loyal Henchman..." ain't exactly what comes to mind.

    It's more like "Someone With An Agenda Of Their Own Who Was Just Drafting In Hopes That They Would Wind Up In A Better Position..."

    Same for Scaramucci or Bolton.

    Even "Friend..."/"Associate..." feels like a stretch.

    Each one of them is more like Freddy in Freddy Vs. Jason.
    I don't think Trump has ever had ANY real friends, save perhaps for Roy Cohn. In his world, there are only lackeys, henchmen, bootlickers and sycophants.
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    I always thought Donald comes from a family of draft dodgers and fools. Regarding Don Jr., the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Ivanka is probably the most intelligent of Donald's 5 kids but she has no more integrity than her father. But to my surprise, some of his family are smarter than other Trumps.

    John G. Trump was an American electrical engineer, inventor, and physicist. A professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology from 1936 to 1973, he was a recipient of the National Medal of Science medal and a member of the National Academy of Engineering. John Trump was noted for developing rotational radiation therapy. Moreover, he co-developed one of the first million-volt X-ray generators. He was the paternal uncle of President Donald Trump.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Trump


    Maryanne Trump Barry is a former United States Circuit Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit, appointed by President Bill Clinton. She is the eldest sister of U.S. President Donald Trump. Despite being under scrutiny for tax evasion schemes with her siblings, Maryanne still has more honor and integrity than Donald.

    Her reputation on the bench was that of a tough judge with strong command of her courtroom. In 1989, while a district court judge in Newark, New Jersey, she disapproved a plea bargain that would have freed two county detectives accused of protecting a drug dealer, and forced the case to trial. The detectives were convicted and received jail terms. She also presided over the conviction of Louis Manna, the Genovese crime family mobster accused of plotting to assassinate rival John Gotti.

    According to Mary L. Trump's book, Maryanne never believed Donald would win the election. She knew he was too narcissistic, too immature and too irresponsible to be the President of the United States.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryanne_Trump_Barry


    Mary L. Trump, who is the niece of Donald Trump and author of an anti-Donald book called "Too Much and Never Enough" is a psychologist,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_L._Trump


    How is this idiot-in-chief related to a honored physicist/engineer, a federal judge and a psychologist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuro no Shinigami View Post
    I always thought Donald comes from a family of draft dodgers and fools. Regarding Don Jr., the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Ivanka is probably the most intelligent of Donald's 5 kids but she has no more integrity than her father. But to my surprise, some of his family are smarter than other Trumps.

    John G. Trump was an American electrical engineer, inventor, and physicist. A professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology from 1936 to 1973, he was a recipient of the National Medal of Science medal and a member of the National Academy of Engineering. John Trump was noted for developing rotational radiation therapy. Moreover, he co-developed one of the first million-volt X-ray generators. He was the paternal uncle of President Donald Trump.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Trump


    Maryanne Trump Barry is a former United States Circuit Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit, appointed by President Bill Clinton. She is the eldest sister of U.S. President Donald Trump. Despite being under scrutiny for tax evasion schemes with her siblings, Maryanne still has more honor and integrity than Donald.

    Her reputation on the bench was that of a tough judge with strong command of her courtroom. In 1989, while a district court judge in Newark, New Jersey, she disapproved a plea bargain that would have freed two county detectives accused of protecting a drug dealer, and forced the case to trial. The detectives were convicted and received jail terms. She also presided over the conviction of Louis Manna, the Genovese crime family mobster accused of plotting to assassinate rival John Gotti.

    According to Mary L. Trump's book, Maryanne never believed Donald would win the election. She knew he was too narcissistic, too immature and too irresponsible to be the President of the United States.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryanne_Trump_Barry


    Mary L. Trump, who is the niece of Donald Trump and author of an anti-Donald book called "Too Much and Never Enough" is a psychologist,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_L._Trump


    How is this idiot-in-chief related to a honored physicist/engineer, a federal judge and a psychologist?
    Trump's been pampered and protected from consequences all his life. How could he not be an idiot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    Trump's been pampered and protected from consequences all his life. How could he not be an idiot?
    Trump's father kept him out of Vietnam (probably knew he wouldn't have lasted one day there), bought him that degree from the Wharton School (where one of his teachers said he was stupid) and gave him that fat chunk of money to get him started in business instead of making him earn his own way. So, it's no wonder Trump believes the world revolves around him and that consequences are for everyone else, not him.
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