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    Quote Originally Posted by Madam-Shogun-Assassin View Post
    Which reminds me, The democrats lost with jaime harrison because he ran one of the worst campaigns ever seen (Accordingto the people who live there)
    . Jamie Harrison worked for John Podesta's lobbying firm with companies like Walmart and Wells Fargo. He was also a Clyburn staffer forever. He was hand picked because the Demorcats in power wanted him.

    I literally had NO idea what his political positions were other than getting rid of Lindsey Graham. 100 million dollars wasted on a party connected lobbyist.
    Yep.

    If they had actually put twenty-five million of that into actually opening up a dialog with voters who were not inclined to vote for Harrison?

    That would have been a start.

    Instead, it was the usual "Just Throw Money At It..." play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    At the end of the day, Jaime Harrison's campaign in SC had him scoring 1,110,828 votes or 44.2% against Lindsey's 54%.

    Dem candidates ran major GOP candidates in a deep red state on a margin no GOP can run against a major Dem in a blue state. That shows the strength of the Dems and not their weakness in my view.

    Harrison made Graham, a longtime senator for SC sweat and beg his way to victory. And even then Graham's victory came because of RBG's death and seating Barrett not through any action of his.

    The GOP relies on FL and TX for its major electoral base and Biden won more votes in both states than Trump did in 2016, while Trump boasts no big improvement in blue bastions like NY and CA.
    Alex Sanders hit that percentage in 2002, and Bob Conley hit forty-two percent in 2008.

    There is no excuse for dropping ridiculous amounts of money only to ballpark past results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    At the end of the day, Jaime Harrison's campaign in SC had him scoring 1,110,828 votes or 44.2% against Lindsey's 54%.

    Dem candidates ran major GOP candidates in a deep red state on a margin no GOP can run against a major Dem in a blue state. That shows the strength of the Dems and not their weakness in my view.

    Harrison made Graham, a longtime senator for SC sweat and beg his way to victory. And even then Graham's victory came because of RBG's death and seating Barrett not through any action of his.

    The GOP relies on FL and TX for its major electoral base and Biden won more votes in both states than Trump did in 2016, while Trump boasts no big improvement in blue bastions like NY and CA.
    538 lists South Carolina as the least elastic state in the country - meaning it has less swing voters than any other state, even ones that vote one way or the other by larger margins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Lensman View Post
    538 lists South Carolina as the least elastic state in the country - meaning it has less swing voters than any other state, even ones that vote one way or the other by larger margins.
    So that makes Harrison's performance there all the more commendable. Believe me if RBG hadn't died and Barrett hadn't been seated, he would have won.

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    ...I didn't even know she was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madam-Shogun-Assassin View Post
    Which reminds me, The democrats lost with jaime harrison because he ran one of the worst campaigns ever seen (Accordingto the people who live there)
    . Jamie Harrison worked for John Podesta's lobbying firm with companies like Walmart and Wells Fargo. He was also a Clyburn staffer forever. He was hand picked because the Demorcats in power wanted him.

    I literally had NO idea what his political positions were other than getting rid of Lindsey Graham. 100 million dollars wasted on a party connected lobbyist.
    Harrison won the primary so the Democrats gave him every advantage to win. Money covers many things, candidates don't lose because they ever had too much money and if the Democrats did do this they'd be getting an earful about not backing their own candidates to take out Graham from congress. Not very politician is going to win every election, choosing not to fight won't lead to a victory over Graham.

    Why is being a Clyburn staff bad? The voters chose Harrison to represent them, the other candidates are listed here.

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    Gloria Bromell Tinubu, former Georgia state representative, candidate for Lieutenant Governor of South Carolina in 2018, and nominee for South Carolina's 7th congressional district in 2012 and 2014[25] (endorsed Jaime Harrison)[26]
    William Stone, legal researcher[27][28]
    Justin Wooton, activist[29][30]
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    Mandy Powers Norrell, state representative and candidate for lieutenant governor in 2018 (running for reelection)[31][32]
    Bakari Sellers, political commentator and former state representative[33]
    Conspiracy theories about the DNC isn't a compelling argument.

    Edit: Defeating Graham was always a long shot, this isn't New York City.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    Every. Single. Word. Every. Single. Syllable.

    All of this is the miserable fucking truth.

    IT seems the main reason people got upset about 9/11 and not the deathtoll of Covid-19 is that the attackers being 9/11 are all foreign non-white people. When WASPs commit to murderous policies with a death toll in the 6 figures, and triple the 9/11 body count every week...nobody bats an eye.
    It's easier to grasp planes taken over by terrorists flying into buildings on live tv than an abstract virus. And people do care, they're just Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    The seats Democrats just lost in Congress tend to suggest otherwise.
    Introspection on a national level. Now there needs to be introspection on state and local levels. Many organized democratic groups are doing that right now, or should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    So that makes Harrison's performance there all the more commendable. Believe me if RBG hadn't died and Barrett hadn't been seated, he would have won.
    Graham won by more than ten points.

    That difference wouldn't be eliminated if not for RBG.

    Quote Originally Posted by Madam-Shogun-Assassin View Post
    Which reminds me, The democrats lost with jaime harrison because he ran one of the worst campaigns ever seen (Accordingto the people who live there)
    . Jamie Harrison worked for John Podesta's lobbying firm with companies like Walmart and Wells Fargo. He was also a Clyburn staffer forever. He was hand picked because the Demorcats in power wanted him.

    I literally had NO idea what his political positions were other than getting rid of Lindsey Graham. 100 million dollars wasted on a party connected lobbyist.
    There was a New Yorker podcast interview with Harrison where he struggled to go after Trump, probably because he recognized that Trump wasn't going to lose the state (In the end, Trump got 0.6% more than Graham; Harrison got 1% less than Biden) which showed how he was between a rock and a hard place.

    I suspect that another Democrat would not have been able to win.

    A Democratic Congressman in South Carolina did lose reelection by one point. Perhaps it would've been worse if not for Harrison. Perhaps five percent of the money that went to Harrison should have gone to that guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Alex Sanders hit that percentage in 2002, and Bob Conley hit forty-two percent in 2008.

    There is no excuse for dropping ridiculous amounts of money only to ballpark past results.
    It also ignores that Harrison very much underperformed polls from the last month or so pre election. SC was considered a very winnable state until like a week or two before the election when Graham broke out for some reason. Probably should have been viewed as a signal that Trump wasn't going to get wiped out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    I'm not denying that the Clinton Campaign made huge mistakes. However, they might have made fewer of them if the person they were running against was someone they understood. Someone like like Ted Cruz, or John Kasich, or Marco Rubio, or Jeb Bush.
    One thing you have to consider is that Hillary's team actually wanted Trump to win the nomination. There were reports for a long time that Hillary's team was concerned how it would be optically if she ran against a younger and more ethnic Marco Rubio and how it would effect the youth and hispanic vote (it also pretty much guarantees a Florida loss).

    Hillary's biggest issue with Trump was the same thing a lot of people have with Trump. They start to view him as an anomaly that you can beat by just making the campaign about him, but that doesn't really work so well (or at least not to the degree most people expect) and you end up over inundating the public with every Trump scandal until they all become noise and don't stick.

    The other fact of the matter is that Hillary isn't a particularly charasmatic or likeable person so it's easy to frame her. Trump's an awful person, but (at least back in 2016, these skills diminished by 2020) he is able to minimize his flaws with charisma and having more of a down to Earth persona.

    But I'm not willing to let her off the hook either. That was a winnable election for her and if you took away her misteps she probably would be getting her second term right now. She lost in 3 states, one of which she never stepped foot in. She lost Obama voters, a big reason was her team never bothered to ease bad blood from 2008, she didn't have strong messaging for the midwest working class and allowed Trump to run to the left of her there. As a candidate she just never resonated that well to begin with. Unlike Biden, her team had a much harder time unifying the party and playing nice with opposition. Also quite frankly, skilled politicians can tacticly avoid an issue that doesn't favor them. Trump skated on the Access Hollywood tape because he made it clear he would turn it into a gutter war with Bill Clinton allegation and I don't think the Clinton team wanted to have that fight. But Hillary was never able to get out from under the email issue and it caused problems even attacking Trump for not releasing his taxes. So because she was unable or unwilling to really deal with some issues, it gave Trump in back roads to get around his problems.

    For a close election, there were enough self inflicted wounds that I am not unconvinced that she would have won with a better campagn if you isolate her issues by themselves. It's not like Trump won a landlside election and she had a lot of ground to make up. It was death by a thousand cuts and she still was close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Introspection on a national level. Now there needs to be introspection on state and local levels. Many organized democratic groups are doing that right now, or should be.
    According to people on Twitter who helped dems campaign, they're not doing that. DougJones says Stacey Abrams model in Georgia is THE model and that, dscc, and dccc spend too much time investing in candidates not the electorate. There’s enormous $ & energy spent turning out voters in our communities for presidential elections but we rarely get resources necessary to build electoral power b/w those cycles or support legislation. It seems they want our votes and volunteers, but after that, it’s crickets.

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    On this date, in 2014, in 2015, and in 2016, "Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day" published profiles of Greg Brannon, a former OBGYN who moved to the Tar Heel State because he idolized its famous senator and proud segregationalist, Sen. Jesse Helms. Brannon, in spite of being a doctor, argues against vaccinations, and claims there is a link that shows women getting abortions end up at higher risk for breast cancer (that link doesn’t exist). Brannon has compared food stamps to slavery, property taxes to the Holocaust, claims that the Affordable Care Act created death panels (it didn’t) and that the ACA is somehow a part of the New World Order that will be established in the United Nations Agenda 21 conspiracy theory. That should come as little surprise considering he was once president of an organization called “Founder’s Truth” that believed the mass shooting in Aurora, Colorado and the Boston Marathon bombing were “false flag” attacks and that water fluoridation is a plot to control the populace. Brannon also has gone on record to say that the Founding Fathers believed in Fetal Personhood, stated his support for nullification of fedreal laws at the state level, and refuses to acknowledge the authority of the Supreme Court, saying, “Just because nine people in black robes and seven of them say that abortion is in the Constitution doesn’t make it law.” For the third consecutive election, Brannon failed to reach office in 2016, finishing third in the GOP primary while trying to challenge Renee Ellmers for his seat in Congress.

    On this date in both 2017, as well as 2018, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” profiled Ed Henry, a former member of the Alabama House of Representatives originally elected in the 2010 Tea Party Wave. Henry’s name came to the fore in 2016 in a big way, because he was one of the first Alabama Republicans to file articles of impeachment against Gov. Robert Bentley after the former Govenror went and done goofed by sleeping with one of his top aides, who was drawing a six-figure state salary. Ed Henry’s is a bit of a hypocrite, though on being staunchly against creepy old dudes, considering some of his awful reactions to CSGOPOTD legend, U.S. Senate candidate and former Alabama Supreme Court Justice Roy Moore being a pedophile with multiple victims coming forward to accuse him, and a mall, YMCA, and local police departments coming forward to say that they banned Moore from places where teenage girls were when he was in his 30s and trolling for jailbait. It might be one thing if he was only one of the Alabama Republicans who denied that the accusers who came forward were telling the truth, but instead, Ed Henry suggested that the women coming forward “should be prosecuted” because they failed to report on Roy Moore’s pedophilia decades earlier, and keep him off the streets forty years. Henry went on record that he didn’t feel like Roy Moore being accused of being a sexual predator/pedophile combination should end his campaign, that those withdrawing support for Moore were “cowards”, and that Roy Moore was the actual “victim” in all of it. Then again, maybe there’s a bright side to Ed Henry’s hypocrisy. Back in 2015, Ed Henry was campaigning hard for a bill he submitted to restrict abortion clinics from operating within 2,000 feet of a school (presumably, Alabama Republicans could shut down clinics by just putting money towards building a new school across the street). He argued at the time that his idea was not unlike how sex offenders aren’t allowed within that distance of school, and that it wasn’t unreasonable to treat abortion providers like sex offenders. Which, after his defense of Roy Moore means that should be trying to get more abortion providers elected to the U.S. Senate. Legislative extremism is par for the course for Henry, as one of his first sponsored pieces of legislation was an attempt to nullify the Affordable Care Act. He also supported an obviously unconstitutional bill that shows why he liked Roy Moore, proposing a monument of the Ten Commandments built on state property, and supported legislation to protect confederate monuments. He voted for a bill to outlaw abortion if a fetal heartbeat is detected, which can occur as early as six weeks into a pregnancy, before most women even realize they are pregnant., an attempt at drug testing welfare recipients, a bill to re-establish the electric chair as a means of execution in the state of Alabama, a bill to make it legal for officials to refuse to perform marriage ceremonies, a last ditch effort to try and stop same sex marriage that wouldn’t work, and even a bill to allow child placement agencies to deny services based on their religious beliefs, which translates to Henry would like orphanages to be able to tell gay people they’re not allowed to provide a loving home to a child on account of their sexual orientation. On June 7th, 2018, he was arrested and indicted on 14 corruption charges for accepting kickbacks from a medical clinic that was being investigated for being a “pill mill” that overprescribed opiates. Henry’s legal woes seem to have ended his career, and was sentenced to two years’ probation. We’ll note that we shouldn’t really be surprised, given that he was a co-chair for the 2016 Donald Trump campaign for president in Alabama, which is a title we’re not unaccustomed to seeing people being brought up on charges for (See Ralph Shortey and Bill Nojay).

    On this date in 2019, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” profiled Michael Clark, who was first elected to the South Dakota House of Representatives in the 2016 elections. He had blind support for conservative policy, supporting a ban on abortion at 19 weeks, and moving the concealed carry of firearms without a permit among other hard right legislation during his one term in office. What brought a hasty end to Michael Clark’s career was that only about five months ahead of his first re-election, he got on Facebook and gave his deep thoughts about how much freedom business owners should have, and he felt that such freedoms should include the ability to return us to the days of segregation, and allow them to turn away people of color:”A businessman should have the opportunity to run his business the way he wants. If he wants to turn away people of color, that’s his choice.” Now, if you’re thinking that his apology could undo the damage on such a horrid opinion, he took the time to explain that he knew his statement was very racist and wrong, but that it was just a poor attempt at justifying why businesses should be allowed to refuse to do business with gay people:” "I made some comments here on Facebook, defending a Colorado Baker decision not create a cake for a homosexual wedding. The comments I made were very racist. I would like to apologize for those comments. Businesses should not be able to discriminate solely based on race, sex, national origin, age, or handicap." So even in that apology, he acknowledged he still wanted to discriminate against someone. Michael Clark fell short of holding onto his seat in the South Dakota legislature by 67 votes. We’re hoping that he disappears into obscurity, and he never gets a second chance in politics after he said what most Republicans only think these days out loud. As such, we will set aside his profile at this time and take a look at another kooky Republican today instead. (Current crazy/stupid scoreboard, is now 940-45, since this was established in July 2014.
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    Welcome to what is the 940th original profile here at “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day”, where we’ll be discussing Saundra McDowell, who in 2020 was a Republican Primary candidate to be the next Governor of Missouri. As you can see above, she was a dedicated Covidiot as her main campaign plank, not just questioning public health mandates but proudly going out and risking not just her own health, but the health of others in the name of freedom. This passion was downright fanatical, as she referred to wearing a mask as a “demonic ritual”.

    Because it’s always good when conservatives start interspersing scripture with the Constitution and in no way terrifying. It’s not an isolated thing, either, as she watched the 2018 election returns where Democrats won in races all over the country and thought of that as a “demonic attack” as well. Oh, and the protests between Black Lives Matter protesters and those who commit police brutality as a “battle between good and evil”. Guess which side she thinks is “evil’? Go ahead, guess.

    Saundra McDowell got all of 12% of the vote in the Republican primary. She currently remains at large in the public, a threat to public health in her own actions, and her rhetoric. We don’t know how many people she’s going to get killed, but it will almost definitely be a non-zero number.
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