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    Quote Originally Posted by JCAll View Post
    I just will never accept Accelerationism as a worthwhile political philosophy. It's never been anything more than genocidal nihilism mixed with revenge porn. Actually, what it really reminds me of most is the Pat Robertson-esque Evangelicals. The kind of people who openly want to being about the End of Days, for no better reason they they believe the world is irredeemable and enjoy the thought of everyone who isn't them burning in Hell. How it's becoming a major movement I have no idea...

    Speaking of Pat Robertson though, he's back in the news today. Apparently he has been talking to God again, and God told him that if Trump is reelected he will definitely start Armageddon. Which is a good thing. So he's still on brand.
    Robertson looks like he died ten years ago and had been embalmed, but never got the memo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
    I can't say more without getting banned, so I'll leave it at this. Our country has always been violent, corrupt, and racist. Until the two Party System is abolished nothing is going to change. My hope is Trump hastens that demise so something better can emerge from the ruins. I don't want the country destroyed but I do want the current political system destroyed.
    Changing the system we have with a violent revolution won't wipe the slate clean, all the flaws embedded in American culture will be still there. Racism and sexism don't get erased by simply replacing a political or economic system. But say this happens, there is no scenario where a left comes on top when the right in American have such a large cultural pull within its institutions like the military, police and government - who won't support a coup from the left. This is exactly what would destroy the country, and something even worse might take its place. The current political system is terrible but it can be reformed, getting rid of it just puts every marginalised group at risk before and afterward. It's not leftist governments or movements haven't had terrible histories with protecting marginalised groups, they're just over shadowed by the right wing on those issues.

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    At this point, unless there's a complete misreading of the data, Biden should have an early lead as it were.

    With this massive amount of early voting, the margin of error in the polling might not be statistically significant.

    However, one must not discount the surge of GOP voters too. That might make things much closer when its all said and done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Username taken View Post


    At this point, unless there's a complete misreading of the data, Biden should have an early lead as it were.

    With this massive amount of early voting, the margin of error in the polling might not be statistically significant.

    However, one must not discount the surge of GOP voters too. That might make things much closer when its all said and done.
    Perhaps, but I won't relax until the word is official on November 3rd that Biden won. Neither Trump or his enablers in the GOP will go down without a fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    Perhaps, but I won't relax until the word is official on November 3rd that Biden won. Neither Trump or his enablers in the GOP will go down without a fight.
    With everything being a mess, it could take weeks after before we know for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    Perhaps, but I won't relax until the word is official on November 3rd that Biden won. Neither Trump or his enablers in the GOP will go down without a fight.
    Very true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
    I don't see how Trump wins Pennsylvania (and I have him retaining the Presidency), but the others are a good bet.
    If you're correct, you're going to have major bragging rights. Most current polls show Pennsylvania, along with Florida, as one of Trump's best swing states, at least when compared to Arizona, Virginia, Michigan and Wisconsin.
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    For those who say 2016 was different. They're completely correct, in both positive and negative ways. While Trump has lost some of the people who voted for him in 2016, he's gained others (especially in the minorities) he's devalued the media so much that even his moderate supporters who vote for policy and not personality might not hear about any scandals because they don't watch as much media.

    Of course Biden has gained in other ways. Like getting more white voters; the fact he seems less elitist, and possible increases in turnout. And if voting turnout for early votes continues to grow, any major mistakes Biden makes are going to matter less than they would have last time.

    Point is 2020 is worse than 2016 in some ways and better in others.

    As for Trump voters, it generally takes a few years to come to terms with being fooled, a related video to the one shown earlier even notes that it took some of Trump's victims from Trump U. a few years to come to terms with him having tricked them. (5 to 7 years were the examples given.) So make no mistake, Trump will bleed some of his suppporters as his broken promises leave people feeling betrayed, hence why he'll try to appeal to others. It just might take more time than election gives us.

    Edit: This is just an observation intended to prevent people from underestimating Trump. It doesn't predict anything.
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    Nobody is counting out Trump. We have seen over the last 4 years that a large percentage of the American public is stupid, racist or both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChangingStation View Post
    As for Trump voters, it generally takes a few years to come to terms with being fooled, a related video to the one shown earlier even notes that it took some of Trump's victims from Trump U. a few years to come to terms with him having tricked them. (5 to 7 years were the examples given.) So make no mistake, Trump will bleed some of his suppporters as his broken promises leave people feeling betrayed, hence why he'll try to appeal to others.
    Trump’s number one promise, his border wall has been a colossal fiasco which, ironically enough, he never mentions these days. I wonder why? We all know the story: Mexico was going to pay for the wall, then it wound up coming out of OUR pockets, and only a scant few miles have been built to boot. I’d say that was a broken promise. Another broken promise: killing Roe v. Wade, the reason holy rollers got in bed with Trump, last time I checked, it still exists. And, let’s not forget another golden oldie, whacking Obamacare, not much success with that either. But, the rubes continue supporting him, at this point, I’m of the opinion it’s because of a common bond....HATE. As long as Trump continues fomenting hatred of the same things his lemmings hate (minorities, gays, uppity women and non-Christians), his supporters won’t waiver, no matter how many times Trump breaks promises.
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    Trump wins Pennsylvania and the election. Enthusiasm in PA is off the charts for him. Republicans may even pick up a couple congressional seats as well. New voter registration here favors Republicans plus Trump always outperforms the polling.

    Prepare yourselves now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spidey5640 View Post
    Trump wins Pennsylvania and the election. Enthusiasm in PA is off the charts for him. Republicans may even pick up a couple congressional seats as well. New voter registration here favors Republicans plus Trump always outperforms the polling.

    Prepare yourselves now.
    Link or is this first hand experience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChangingStation View Post
    Link or is this first hand experience?
    Here's a link regarding the Voter registration numbers from a source most people on this board might trust - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/19/u...nsylvania.html

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    https://mobile.twitter.com/davidpale...69248735928320

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    Suffolk University/USA TODAY network poll of Pennsylvania likely voters:
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    Joe Biden 49%
    Donald Trump 42%
    Jo Jorgensen 1%
    Others 1%
    Undecided 4%
    Refused 3%

    Biden +7 in PA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spidey5640 View Post
    Here's a link regarding the Voter registration numbers from a source most people on this board might trust - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/19/u...nsylvania.html
    Well it is a cause for hope for Trump. I'll give you that. Not exactly a certain bet though.

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