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    Quote Originally Posted by Robotman View Post
    If Trump is somehow defeated, there needs to be a number of rules shorn up in regards to presidential power. So many facets of the Executive Office have relied on the president to have some honor and respect for the constitution. The system was not prepared for someone like Trump who would happily become the first dictator of the United States.
    Exactly. Legislation absolutely has to be put into place for proper and thorough vetting of candidates for president. Medical exam, psych exam, release of tax returns, plus, and this is my idea, candidates have to have a bare minimum of five years in political office of some kind so knuckleheads like Trump literally canít come in off the street to run for the highest office in the land.

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    Just heard about that. Shit. Not good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robotman View Post
    If Trump is somehow defeated, there needs to be a number of rules shorn up in regards to presidential power. So many facets of the Executive Office have relied on the president to have some honor and respect for the constitution. The system was not prepared for someone like Trump who would happily become the first dictator of the United States.
    This would probably get support on all sides. Biden's not going to care about wanting to be a dictator. Democrats don't want to have an amoral conservative more competent than Trump with the same level of power, and Republicans will be amenable to limits on the authority of Presidents when it's possible that their side will be out of power for some time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robotman View Post
    If Trump is somehow defeated, there needs to be a number of rules shorn up in regards to presidential power. So many facets of the Executive Office have relied on the president to have some honor and respect for the constitution. The system was not prepared for someone like Trump who would happily become the first dictator of the United States.
    The issue is that his followers are exactly the kinds of people who will go, "We need an authoritarian in charge of the United States" despite criticizing other authoritarian nations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogindy View Post
    The issue is that his followers are exactly the kinds of people who will go, "We need an authoritarian in charge of the United States" despite criticizing other authoritarian nations.
    The same people who vote based on their religious beliefs while screaming about Sharia Law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogindy View Post
    The issue is that his WHITE followers are exactly the kinds of people who will go, "We need an authoritarian in charge of the United States" despite criticizing other authoritarian nations.
    Fixed that for you. Those abominable cretins want a strongman in the Oval Office to keep a foot on the necks of people of color, women, gays and non-Christians. Nothing more complicated than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    The same people who vote based on their religious beliefs while screaming about Sharia Law.
    Religious fundamentalists taking over your government? No problem! They just put the ‘fun’ in ‘functionally no different than a dictatorship’!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    Fixed that for you. Those abominable cretins want a strongman in the Oval Office to keep a foot on the necks of people of color, women, gays and non-Christians. Nothing more complicated than that.
    You forgot to add “uneducated hillbilly” before white. Some of us aren’t stupid. It’s looking like not enough though

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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    You forgot to add “uneducated hillbilly” before white. Some of us aren’t stupid. It’s looking like not enough though
    Point taken. Still, everyone sees and understands why Trump appeals so strongly to those knuckledraggers, because he hates everything they hate.
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    Going off wishes IF Trump is somehow is defeated

    The largest, most reliable base for Trump is White Males without College degrees, can we please address the costs to college? We typically look at it as Millenials in debt topic but education is A HUGE component in why Trump is possible. So long has it's cost prohibitive, where even those that do go are thousands of dollars in debt, how can we expect an educated populace?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kusanagi View Post
    Going off wishes IF Trump is somehow is defeated

    The largest, most reliable base for Trump is White Males without College degrees, can we please address the costs to college? We typically look at it as Millenials in debt topic but education is A HUGE component in why Trump is possible. So long has it's cost prohibitive, where even those that do go are thousands of dollars in debt, how can we expect an educated populace?
    Ignorant, uneducated, gullible Americans are the most dangerous threats to this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kusanagi View Post
    Going off wishes IF Trump is somehow is defeated

    The largest, most reliable base for Trump is White Males without College degrees, can we please address the costs to college? We typically look at it as Millenials in debt topic but education is A HUGE component in why Trump is possible. So long has it's cost prohibitive, where even those that do go are thousands of dollars in debt, how can we expect an educated populace?
    Here's the thing... I just got my diploma from a community college.

    Getting an education shouldn't cost people an arm and a leg. However, colleges and universities often want to put on the razzle-dazzle for folks when they show up, with major event centers and football stadiums, and people get into the notion that if you want the best opportunity for a career, you need to go to the biggest places where your education will matter the most on a resume. And, those football fields don't come cheap. So, who ends up paying for those?

    Yet, if we wanna talk about education reform, representatives from those schools are going to be against those policies (not to mention an unwillingness to convince people that cheaper alternatives do exist, and programs do exist BESIDES student loans, like FAFSA and scholarships based on career goals), as well folks who have this weird logic that going through debt "builds character". It's a whole lot of nonsense, but as long as you keep your population dumb and poor, they're going to vote Republican, and specifically conservative. That's why conservative politicians and pundits always have an "anti-intellectual" attitude; to convince their voting base that school is for losers and to change this would be foolish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Ignorant, uneducated, gullible Americans are the most dangerous threats to this country.
    Which is why the GOP keeps cutting education while expanding tax relief for billionaires. An undereducated worker class is easier to manipulate, and all the billionaire elite want are easily moldable, complacent masses.

    Jack up the cost of higher education, cripple basic education, and you have a generation of GOP faithful who will cheer as you steal food, medicine and actual liberty from them.

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    Racism has cost the U.S. $16 trillion, Citigroup finds

    America could have been $16 trillion richer if not for inequities in education, housing, wages and business investment between Black and White Americans over the past 20 years, new research concludes.

    The study, released this week by Citigroup, is the latest in a body of research that attempts to quantify the economic impact of systemic racism. Citigroup arrived at its $16 trillion figure after estimating that:

    Black workers have lost $113 billion in potential wages over the past two decades because they couldn't get a college degree.
    The housing market lost $218 billion in sales because Black applicants couldn't get home loans.
    About $13 trillion in business revenue never flowed into the economy because Black entrepreneurs couldn't access bank loans.

    What's more, the U.S. could have $5 trillion in gross domestic product over the next five years if those gaps and others were closed today, the study indicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kusanagi View Post
    Going off wishes IF Trump is somehow is defeated

    The largest, most reliable base for Trump is White Males without College degrees, can we please address the costs to college? We typically look at it as Millenials in debt topic but education is A HUGE component in why Trump is possible. So long has it's cost prohibitive, where even those that do go are thousands of dollars in debt, how can we expect an educated populace?
    I don’t think it’s quite that simple. Educated white WOMEN have also gravitated to Trump. For some, it’s simple racism, for others, his snake oil anti-abortion stance, but that lot doesn’t have ignorance as an excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    I donít think itís quite that simple. Educated white WOMEN have also gravitated to Trump. For some, itís simple racism, for others, his snake oil anti-abortion stance, but that lot doesnít have ignorance as an excuse.

    New Poll: Suburban Women Will Not Vote For Trump


    NEW YORK, Sept. 14, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- The findings of a new national survey conducted by All In Together, a non-partisan civic education organization, in partnership with Lake Research Partners and Emerson College Polling, is the most comprehensive study to date of women voters in 2020. The second survey of the study being released looked at 1,273 registered women voters nationwide from August 30-September 1 with a +/-2.75% margin of error.

    The survey also oversampled 668 registered women voters in the following Battleground states: WI, MN, AZ, NC, VA, CO, NH, FL, MI, and PA with a +/-3.8% margin of error. The oversample was weighted down to reflect their actual proportion of women voters.
    The survey found:

    • Women voters favor Biden by 11-points, men voters prefer Trump by a 7-point margin (50% Trump, 43% Biden, 7% undecided), for a gender gap of 18-points.
    • Suburban women are voting for Biden (55%) over Trump (41%) with 4% undecided.
    • Nearly half (48%) of suburban women have a very unfavorable impression of Trump.
    • Almost a half (48%) of suburban women believe Trump administration policies have made their communities less safe.
    • The majority of independent women are also voting for Biden (57%) over Trump (31%). In fact, the only group of women Trump continues to hold are non-college educated white women.
    • Women voters have an unfavorable view of President Trump (55% unfavorable, 48% very unfavorable), while 44% have a favorable view of him.
    • Black women continue to be Biden's strongest supporters (84% support to 12% support for Trump).
    • Women under 30 are voting for Biden by the widest margin behind Black women (79% Biden, 18% Trump, 3% undecided).

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