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    Quote Originally Posted by Rise View Post
    And that doesn't make you suspect that there's something going on here instead of quickly jumping to conclusion that it's about racism? Are you people that blind that you can't see that both BLM and Trump supporters are being played and that the media is trying so hard to create a division? Stop pointing finger at each others and try standing together for once.
    Yes-you had cops in on it or were ordered to stand down.

    Whatever it was-RACISM STILL PLAYED A PART.

    It would be ONE thing if they reacted to the Trump Supporters the same way they did to BLM.

    They did NOT. That is why many are pointing out the double standard.

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    Are those people insane ? I mean, they have to be, surely. Nobody could be dumb enough to film themselves supporting an attempted coup and then post it on the Internet willingly ? At least not among the "heads" of said coup !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korath View Post
    Are those people insane ? I mean, they have to be, surely. Nobody could be dumb enough to film themselves supporting an attempted coup and then post it on the Internet willingly ? At least not among the "heads" of said coup !
    There's a lot of lizard brain thinking going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERECWFAN1 View Post
    No their main goal was to make sure he wasn't voted on at all. The person who grabbed the electoral votes in leaving will be remembered for saving the process. Cause it would have delayed everything for weeks longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korath View Post
    Are those people insane ? I mean, they have to be, surely. Nobody could be dumb enough to film themselves supporting an attempted coup and then post it on the Internet willingly ? At least not among the "heads" of said coup !
    These B-Grade wannabe supervillains are an insult to B-Grade actual supervillains everywhere.

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    Shumer said he will fire current Sergeant at arms when he takes over as Majority leader. And transportation Secretary has resigned in protest. I am so glad another upstanding cabnit member has had enough 13 days before a transfer of power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korath View Post
    It's still incredibly dangerous. In 1928, nazis were more or less that when they attempted their coup and failed. Five years later they had the most votes out of the election (but not the majority). In the US political system, where it's almost a given Biden will not be able to suppress the far-right, which thus knows it is strong enough to elect someone like Trump, it's incredibly dangerous. Because next time, you won't get some rude and uneducated brute like Donald over there. You'll probably get the sort of conniving bastard like Ted Cruz, who's actually able to use his brain to get in power...
    The far right is definitely not going anywhere and in fact will be emboldened by what happened yesterday. They stormed into the Capital with ease and were taking selfies with the police. They made their point. They can get away with anything because "law and order" does not apply to them (or at least not the same way it applies to POC and left wing protestors).

    As long as ring wing media exists and is allowed to propagate conspiracy theories and hate, things will continue to get worse. This morning, a Fox and Friends correspondent called the terrorist "freedom loving patriots." Fox, OAN, and Twitter produce non-stop cycles of disinformation. This is the world we live in now and I have no idea how to rein it in.

    Looking to the future I don't think the current crop of far-right politicians can do anything like what Trump has done. Trump had a huge advantage from the start. He was already a celebrity and had been a household name in America since the 1980s. He had presented himself as the billionaire business man and an outsider (obviously all bullshit). He's a boorish moron but he has charisma. Because of that he was able to win over undecided voters or people who would not regular vote in general. He even did pretty well with the minority groups who he has been vilifying. People like Hawley and Cruz can spew the same toxic crap but it's not going to speak to anyone other than extremists. So maybe the far-right will look to another "outsider" or celebrity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farealmer View Post
    Donny has been doing a great job creating division all on his own the past 4 years. I doubt his supporters are planning on being any more reasonable.
    Trump is nothing but a showman and the prefect distraction. If you believe that the division started with him, then you are pretty naive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rise View Post
    Trump is nothing but a showman and the prefect distraction. If you believe that the division started with him, then you are pretty naive.
    Division is just another word for politic. it's healthy to have debate, opposing views of the world and what is needed to make it a better place. Usually, when you have no division, you're not even in a dictatorship, you're in a totalitarian regime. Like, say, North Korea.

    What's not okay is that Far-Right morons knows that they can do whatever they want and they won't risk more than a short time in jail - maybe. Those peoples are irreedemable. You can't bring back someone who believes Hitler was right to the path of human decency. It's just impossible.

    And yes, Trump isn't the sole responsible. Capitalism is. it's the new model of totally unregulated, predatory capitalism which, once the big boogeyman of the USSR was down had nothing else to fear and thus destroyed as much social security nets all over the world as it could. Half of the terrorists who assaulted the Capitol yesterday wouldn't have been here if instead of having to live in a country where remaining healthy, going through school up to university, etc. wasn't costing so much that a lot of people just can't afford it. because when those kind of peoples have the same skin color than those who peddled the lies that because of their appearance they deserve more than those other people, they'll listen to it. People wants a decent life, and if they can't achieve it, they'll try to find a reason why. And believing the liars who tells them that it's all ebcause slaves were freed and Natives weren't slaughtered to the last and what not and all you need to do to get a better life is to keep going as it is but also attacking those minorities? They'll listen to it.

    Because it's always easier to punch down instead of up. Because turning against their masters, their enablers would require them to give up on the ONE thing they believe they have over everyone else. White Privilege.

    And if they did, they'd have to admit that not only were they wrong about an awfully long list of things. But they are not different from the POC, the strangers, the Others they reviled so much for so long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    Before anyone echoes the idiocy and gaslighting of Matt Gaetz and claims this was actually Antifa who broke into the capitol?

    They're identifying people from their own videos and photos. If you were gonna frame Antifa, these ***holes shouldn't have made a document of themselves doing the crime.

    Not shockingly, some of these motherf***ers like Nick Fuentes and Baked Alaska were at Charlottesville. But, y'know, I'm sure racism doesn't factor into this.
    Gaetz is clearly that guy who brags he's an intellect when he is, by all accounts, the Village Idiot.

    Or, to be on brand, a real Florida Man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korath View Post
    Are those people insane ? I mean, they have to be, surely. Nobody could be dumb enough to film themselves supporting an attempted coup and then post it on the Internet willingly ? At least not among the "heads" of said coup !
    Yes they are. Because most of the time no one has taken those videos and busted folks. Especially folks who you KNOW who they are.


    And that doesn't make you suspect that there's something going on here instead of quickly jumping to conclusion that it's about racism? Are you people that blind that you can't see that both BLM and Trump supporters are being played and that the media is trying so hard to create a division? Stop pointing finger at each others and try standing together for once.
    One last thing the MEDIA can broadcast whatever they want. It still falls on the person WATCHING to govern themselves.

    Yes we saw the troops out for BLM before and AFTER some incidents of violence and looting. We saw them out and ready way in advance after the first few times.

    YET as the reporter said last night-the COPS are trained for stuff like this and know what to do.
    Yet after tons of false info about a stolen election and FLYERS promoting this along with groups funding it-they did nothing for hours. Even after some of them got pepper sprayed.

    If that was BLM-there would be no waiting till 6 PM for a curfew to move folks. The MOMENT they got there the MOVING would have started.
    In a city they followed a BLM protest and TRAPPED them to arrest them for a curfew violation. Followed them for an HOUR.

    White terrorism keeps being REWARDS and EXCUSED. DESPITE data who tells you who is the REAL issue.

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    Honestly, I'm shocked that Twitter and FB locked Trump's account. I almost have to wonder if they got a call from somebody like Pelosi saying something on the order of "You're about to have two very angry majorities in Congress that are likely to be very interested in muscling up the Federal Communications Commission and declaring you subject to their authority."

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    Shumer said he will fire current Sergeant at arms when he takes over as Majority leader. And transportation Secretary has resigned in protest. I am so glad another upstanding cabnit member has had enough 13 days before a transfer of power.
    Just a reminder, that's Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao, aka Mrs. Mitch McConnell.
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    Honestly, this is one time I do want to see Trump tweeting. Now that his coup attempted failed (and caused him to get heat from both political sides) as well as Biden's win being certified, I want to sit back and read his unstable tweets and the comments from his cult followers justifying yesterday etc. Has the 12 hour ban been lifted on his social medias yet? His sons are definitely silent on Twitter today lol....
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