All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[The Cool Thatguy]

There seems to be a level of certainty from supporters of certain policies that is unmerited. If your side makes bold claims, that is the goalpost.

Conversion therapy is an example of a policy that is banned even if parents want it. It's a case where what parents think is best is not allowed.

That's because it's parents abusing their child, trying to force their child to be who they (the parents), want them to be, usually punishing them for being gay.

Hormone therapy is a choice the child makes, to be who they really are.

They're miles apart, and head in different directions.

And the difference isn't hard to see

[thwhtGuardian]

That's because it's parents abusing their child, trying to force their child to be who they (the parents), want them to be, usually punishing them for being gay.

Hormone therapy is a choice the child makes, to be who they really are.

They're miles apart, and head in different directions.

And the difference isn't hard to see

It's hard to see the difference when you're transphobic and doubly so if you're also homophobic.

[godisawesome]

Decent people can believe that Brexit is the right policy, or that Trump was a better presidential candidate than Hillary Clinton.

Putin exploits divisions, including when people freak out about his potential influence.

Them being something as relative and mediocre as “decent” doesn’t make them wise, able to grasp truths about the world, faith, and economics, and still makes them susceptible to baser idiocies and prejudices. They have the right to an opinion, but not all opinions are created equal, reality doesn’t change just because someone wants it to, and right now the heart of modern “conservatives” is a festering mix of fear, misdirected spite, and a lack of virtue.

There are no great conservative leaders right now, because too many who had the influence ceded it for power and base, unworthy goals, and too many who’ve gained influence never had any virtues, moral or pragmatic, in the first place.

[Kirby101]

I guess I have to point out that being trans is something the child is choosing and conversion therapy is forced on the child. It also has been proven to be ineffective.
In fact there is a straight parallel between conversion therapy and what places like Texas are trying to do with trans youngsters.

[AnakinFlair]

Well, they really are taking crazy to a whole other level.

Convoy picks up cars and anti-Ukraine talking points ahead of Washington arrival

The American offshoot of the “Freedom Convoy” that brought chaos to Canada’s capital is promising to stop traffic outside of Washington, D.C., on Saturday, but exact plans remained vague Friday as the group hit its last pit stop in Maryland.

The convoy, which was organized on pro-Trump and anti-vaccine channels on the Telegram messaging app, has picked up hundreds of cars and several trucks since the group left a rural parking lot in Adelanto, California, on Feb. 22.

One organizer, Dan Fitzegerald, who has been livestreaming his journey in the convoy on YouTube, said on a Friday morning stream: “I can tell you now that there will be select trucks going to the White House.”

The convoy was initially formed to protest mask and vaccine mandates, which have largely been repealed as the omicron variant dwindled over the past several weeks. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said last week that indoor mask use is no longer necessary in most of the U.S.

But as its Covid mission has become less clear, the group’s channels have turned to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, where conspiracy-minded thinking has flourished. While some group members have admonished Russian President Vladimir Putin for the invasion, QAnon and anti-vaccine contingents within the groups have seized on a false conspiracy theory that the war is a cover for a military operation backed by former President Donald Trump in Ukraine.

The conspiracy theory, which is baseless and has roots in QAnon mythology, alleges that Trump and Putin are secretly working together to stop bioweapons from being made by Dr. Anthony Fauci in Ukraine and that shelling in Ukraine has targeted the secret laboratories. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has emerged in the past year as a main target for far-right conspiracy theories.

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[Tendrin]

I guess I have to point out that being trans is something the child is choosing and conversion therapy is forced on the child. It also has been proven to be ineffective.
In fact there is a straight parallel between conversion therapy and what places like Texas are trying to do with trans youngsters.

Which is why I said what I said. Being trans isn't any more of a choice than being gay, however, but what their identity looks like will and should be up to them. I know you know this, it just bears repeating.

I will add:

We conducted a systematic literature review of all peer-reviewed articles published in English between 1991 and June 2017 that assess the effect of gender transition on transgender well-being. We identified 55 studies that consist of primary research on this topic, of which 51 (93%) found that gender transition improves the overall well-being of transgender people, while 4 (7%) report mixed or null findings. We found no studies concluding that gender transition causes overall harm. As an added resource, we separately include 17 additional studies that consist of literature reviews and practitioner guidelines.

Bottom Line
This search found a robust international consensus in the peer-reviewed literature that gender transition, including medical treatments such as hormone therapy and surgeries, improves the overall well-being of transgender individuals. The literature also indicates that greater availability of medical and social support for gender transition contributes to better quality of life for those who identify as transgender.

https://whatweknow.inequality.cornel...gender-people/

The SCienCe is UnSettLEd.

[WAKANDA FOREVER!]

Re the convoy: That's...intricate.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Well, they really are taking crazy to a whole other level.

Convoy picks up cars and anti-Ukraine talking points ahead of Washington arrival



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Jesus! The levels of crazy **** rattling around in the empty skulls of those morons is staggering in scope.

[Tendrin]

https://twitter.com/markhachman/stat...17782299643907

An interesting comparison of Facebook's top ten pages *before* the sanctions on Russia and after.

Before:

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After:

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Not 'proof' per say, but a very interesting change.

[mathew101281]

[Robotman]

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/03/u...0F1_GMyAS6CnkkPanel Suggests Trump Knew He Lost the Election, Eyeing Criminal Case

WASHINGTON — Shortly after the 2020 election, as ballots were still being counted, the top data expert in President Donald J. Trump’s re-election campaign told him bluntly that he was going to lose.

In the weeks that followed, as Mr. Trump continued to insist that he had won, a senior Justice Department official told him repeatedly that his claims of widespread voting fraud were meritless, ultimately warning him that they would “hurt the country.”

Those concerns were echoed by the top White House lawyer, who told the president that he would be entering into a “murder-suicide pact” if he continued to pursue extreme plans to try to invalidate the results of the 2020 election.

Yet Mr. Trump — time and again — discounted the facts, the data and many of his own advisers as he continued to promote the lie of a stolen election, according to hundreds of pages of exhibits, interview transcripts and email correspondence assembled by the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack for a legal filing released late Wednesday.

In laying out the account, the panel revealed the basis of what its investigators believe could be a criminal case against Mr. Trump. At its core is the argument that, in repeatedly rejecting the truth that he had lost the 2020 election — including the assertions of his own campaign aides, White House lawyers, two successive attorneys general and federal investigators — Mr. Trump was not just being stubborn or ignorant about his defeat, he was knowingly perpetrating a fraud on the United States.

[CaptainEurope]

Denny Doyle, former mayor of Beaverton OR, charged with possession of child pornography
https://www.kptv.com/2022/03/04/denn...d-pornography/

It's gross, but Beaverton is a mid sized town with less that 100k population. Do you live there, that the news pop up for you?

[CaptainEurope]

Any thoughts on the US Jobs Report?

I guess negativity bias is real on this board, too. No wonder Biden's approval record stands in contrast to his successes.

[Tendrin]

It's gross, but Beaverton is a mid sized town with less that 100k population. Do you live there, that the news pop up for you?

Doyle had a lengthy tenure as mayor and was involved in education and a city council before that. As an Oregonian, I'm concerned, but I don't exactly think it's earth-shattering news. :P

That said, Beaverton isn't *just* a mid-sized Portland suburb. It's also the home of Nike and home to a *lot* of Intel employees.

[CaptainEurope]

Doyle had a lengthy tenure as mayor and was involved in education and a city council before that. As an Oregonian, I'm concerned, but I don't exactly think it's earth-shattering news. :P

That said, Beaverton isn't *just* a mid-sized Portland suburb. It's also the home of Nike and home to a *lot* of Intel employees.

I justr would not expect to see news about a town smaller than Remscheid, our insignificant neighbor town that we laugh at.

It seems to me to be one of those things getting a lot of attention by twitter accounts pointing out that he is a member of the Democrat (sic) Party.