All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[skyvolt2000]

Socialism killed the Cuban votes. The Crime Bill hurt the black vote. Don’t know what the hell happened with women.

CORRECT. Yet those folks ignore the fact there were black folks working and supporting that bill. At least one that I know of just got re-elected in a landslide tonight. Yet no one got in her face about that bill.

Anyways praying for Biden but....... Trump already totally overperformed even if he loses

And that should be a WAKE UP call for everyone no matter what party.

For Democrats-it means fixing a LOT of things. Like all those Democratic cities Trump attacked. If doing what is needed to be done in Chiraq ticks off SJWs-so be it.

Ignoring Latinx voters has to stop. Because Republicans have someone in Texas who could easily get those votes if he runs for President-anyone wants a third Bush in the White House in another 8-12 years?

[BeastieRunner]

I've seen commentary from Rachel Bitecofer who's noted Trump has underperformed in every county in the three states he narrowly won in 2016 here.

And that all of the votes coming in are early ballot ones that won't be finished counting for hours, if not until tomorrow.

It does not look like Trump has won any of these states. Hell, he's fighting to hang onto TX and NC, and AZ looks overwhelmingly like it's flipping blue.


You're trying to call a football game in the early third quarter right now. Be cool.

I'm excited to see history.

Now we just have to see if Biden is channeling Tom Brady vs. Manning, and see if Trump is Eli in the SB or Eli during the season.

[worstblogever]

Some takes that folks should consider:

Evan Hurst, Wonkette-

11:15ET: Hey, remember how Trump has literally told us, and all kinds of other people have told us, that he is going to try to RED MIRAGE America by the p**** on election night, because the election day vote is going to look good for him?

Hi, hello, THEY HAVE A HABIT OF SAYING THESE THINGS OUT LOUD.

So don't play to their narrative.

Also, that Bitecofer Twitter post I mentioned:

Yes, @SykesCharlie is right. Trump needed a big advantage off the first half of the reported vote in WI and he didn't get it. Its within 3 pts. He's underperforming his 2016 margins.

Turnout was high among Dem coalition voters.

And AZ could replace PA, if need be.

[PaulBullion]

With 46% reporting, Susan Collins is leading Sara Gideon 52 to 42%. ****.

[worstblogever]

With 46% reporting, Susan Collins is leading Sara Gideon 52 to 42%. ****.

Same day votes get counted first.

I know we live in a "live update" universe, guys, but you're all driving yourselves up the wall.

Resist the urge to doomscroll. Know how the votes are counted. Be patient.

[BeastieRunner]

GA is having a runoff for the Senate.

[Adam Allen]

How the Hell did he gain ground with Black men? or am I just reading that wrong?

Damn, I thought I was surprised about the Latino situation. An actual increase with black men and women astounds me.

I saw he lost White men. I was just shocked that he gained some of the black vote.

Fos News is calling Florida for Trump.

Even according to this one graph, Trump still has more support from white men and women than any other demographics, his two groups with the highest support, with black men and women being the groups where he has the least support ... the only group that supports him less than black men is black women, which makes sense, given he is a raging sexist, and there are black men who are sexist, too.

As far as his numbers of supporters increasing in all of these groups -- groups he still carries less than a majority of in every category, let's not be misleading on that point -- I think it comes down to the fact that he's the incumbent. As horrible as he is, he's also the President, going into this election. Which makes him more likely to win, and everybody would rather back a winner than a loser.

That black men and women supporting him have to be brainwashed or dumb as rocks, obviously true. But hey, it's democracy -- they are still entitled to their vote!

[InformationGeek]

Fox News called Florida for Trump... but are also giving Arizona to Biden. Could be the end of McSally.

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

Fox called Arizona for Biden. Huge for him

[worstblogever]

GA is having a runoff for the Senate.

Last polls on potential runoffs showed Warnock would beat Loeffler by 10, Collins by 12.


But let's pause a moment to celebrate that Doug Collins, the "Congressman from Hee Haw" will not be in the House or Senate come January.

Also, Laura Loomer lost in Florida.

In Arizona, Martha McSally is getting another humiliating defeat.

The news isn't so dire for Democrats, guys. They're extending their seats in the House. They look like they'll narrowly get control of the Senate. When all the votes are counted, they're getting the White House.

Breathe.

[Jackalope89]

Fox News called Florida for Trump... but are also giving Arizona to Biden. Could be the end of McSally.

McSally seems to be gone.

[ChangingStation]

Even according to this one graph, Trump still has more support from white men and women than any other demographics, his two groups with the highest support, with black men and women being the groups where he has the least support ... the only group that supports him less than black men is black women, which makes sense, given he is a raging sexist, and there are black men who are sexist, too.

As far as his numbers of supporters increasing in all of these groups -- groups he still carries less than a majority of in every category, let's not be misleading on that point -- I think it comes down to the fact that he's the incumbent. As horrible as he is, he's also the President, going into this election. Which makes him more likely to win, and everybody would rather back a winner than a loser.

That black men and women supporting him have to be brainwashed or dumb as rocks, obviously true. But hey, it's democracy -- they are still entitled to their vote!

I think if we learn anything from this, Hispanics have to be categorised in polls to make it clear which country they emigrated to the US from, I'm talking Mexico, Cuba, Venezuela (ect. ect.).

No offence to any Hispanics but background info can be very important to determining their voting intentions.

[Hypestyle]

How the Hell did he gain ground with Black men? or am I just reading that wrong?

this is a long article but worth reading through- https://www.theroot.com/the-myth-of-...ter-1845502044

But also-- a hell of a lot of black men grow up loving/admiring/respecting somebody powerful, regardless. From the dope dealer from around the way, to.... whoever else..

Well, we all know that there’s certain brothers from around the way, who, over the years have not had a problem with “giving props” to the “gangster swagger” of various political/presidential figures, whether Democrat or Republican, based in part on the conspiracy theories attributed to them, which have provided a self-replenishing well to draw from and express “admiration”: Nixon, Reagan, George (HW) Bush, George W., etc., even though these figures were enacting policies that were wreaking havoc in black/urban America.. Even before his Instagram-defection for 45, we all remember 50 Cent giving up dap years ago for George W. Bush, even though his felon status prevented him from actually voting.. (Has he checked into this since then? Never mind.) And I’m sure folks here know dudes who have at one point or another offered observations like,
”You can’t tell me that Reagan wasn’t getting crazy paid off coke, and the way he got off [re: the Iran/Contra scandal] was smooth..”
“Nixon ain’t have dudes that was loyal like that.. somebody [Deep Throat] snitched..”
“George W., Dick Cheney, damn, those dudes were caking it [with Halliburton] and you know they got most of that gold.. had to kill [Saddam Hussein’s] sons, leave no witnesses! Y’all know...”

Of course, in my experience, these cats tend not to be the type to be bothered with voting, for the reasons mentioned above.

Of course, now, Trump is going to be that “tough-talking/straight-shooter/stone-pimp” dude for these cats.. Oh, well...

I’m very sure that plenty dudes didn’t blink when it comes to the “grab ‘em by the _____” conversations; they put it in the same zone as the scandal that involved former L.A. Clippers owner Donald Sterling when his mistress made a secret audio tape of their conversations; a hell of a lot of the brothers were going all in on homegirl for being crooked, sneaky, etc. (fair enough), but the reaction to his racial vitriol was “it’s just his opinion, whatever”... and they’d still gladly buy expensive seats, etc., if Sterling was still the owner, on the loose premise that any white owner of a given establishment is “probably” an arch-racist (well, you can speculate all you want, but for the folks where you actually know... never mind...)

I’m sure some cats were willing to ignore the birther bandwagon (you g__damned idiots), hey, like Celebrity Apprentice alumnus Lil’ Jon, they’re willing to write it off as just “typical” political jibes that “everybody does”...
“everybody talks ____ about their opponents, so whatever..”

Some folks are still going hard on the “he’s a businessman” narrative, never mind all the bankruptcy declarations, shuttered businesses, settled (and outstanding) lawsuits, including the discrimination lawsuits that have been filed against Trump’s businesses over the years (assuming folks are even aware of that— many of the historical complaints didn’t get much mainstream attention).. So the appeal of a celebrity billionaire (*cough— is he*?) kind of speaks for itself..

I’m sure some are die hard “religious conservative” types (God bless, not to imply that they’re bad people) who consider themselves soldiers against the legacy of Margaret Sanger and want Roe v Wade overturned and figure the same for reversing any and all LGBT-related policy.

So, it’s a mixed bag— I simply don’t relate to anything or anyone connected to 45's movement. So, it is what it is... “we’ll see what happens”,

[C_Miller]

McSally seems to be gone.

Kamala Harris may end up being one of the more powerful VPs in recent memory as the best option is looking at a 50/50 tie in the senate. Again, this is assuming Biden wins.

[worstblogever]

McSally seems to be gone.

She was really only there by appointment in the first place.

Now I just have to worry that the Arizona GOP run her for Governor when Doug Ducey is term-limited in 2 years to continue to make her a thing we don't want.