All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[numberthirty]

As I have said NRA - 2nd Amendment advocates ignore the Well Regulated part and think there should be NO restrictions on firearm ownership.
Heller was an travesty by Scalia, and there are reams of articles and scholarly writings pointing out how wrong he was. Easy to Google.

Here John Yonchuck tells White where he got it wrong.
https://twitter.com/No1Lion99/status...27243192524801

Ok first problem: Heller makes up complete bullshit right here. Heller invented this out of whole cloth.

I’m sorry what? Total horseshit. Just because the right manufactured millions of them explicitly for public consumption has no bearing on how dangerous or what their primary purpose is. Just total non sequitor gibberish.

If the guy wants to see it that way?

To each his/her own.

That said...

How, exactly, is it bull that was created out of supposed "Whole Cloth..." when almost that exact thing is there clearly in state Constitutions from the time?

There's an argument for if this is a different time that might call for a different approach.

That the very idea was non-existent, and they just jammed it in?

Come on...

[Kirby101]

That's more NRA BS your spouting 30.
There has been plenty also written how they do not dismiss the "Well Regulated" part.. Heller was still a ruling that ignored President, for Scalia's own agenda.
And many States specified White Men. So let's keep that too, huh?

[numberthirty]

That's more NRA BS your spouting 30.
There has been plenty also written how they do not dismiss the "Well Regulated" part.. Heller was still a ruling that ignored President, for Scalia's own agenda.
And many States specified White Men. So let's keep that too, huh?

Unless they built a time machine to write the Vermont state Constitution?

Anyone trying to frame that as "NRA BS..." is just a blockhead. Did they run with it? Sure. Is it fabricated? Again, come on with that nonsense.

As for what is in green?

That same Constitution pretty clearly lays out that the "Standing Army..."/"Militia..." part is pretty well divorced from individual defense.

Is there an argument for that things have changed, and this should have changed along with it?

Sure, a perfectly good one.

Completely different thing than folks who seem to have missed out on pretty "Basics 101..." US history.

As for that last bit?

It is honestly so silly that it doesn't even really justify dealing with. Not that you are silly, mind you... Just that "Actually Knowing Historical Context Means That You Embrace It..." is just beyond silly.

[Tendrin]

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...campaign=share

This is a good article on what's happening in states controlled by the GOP.

It really lays out just how much of the GOP's agenda remains 'here's the people we've voted to hurt, vote for us so we can hurt them even more'.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...campaign=share

This is a good article on what's happening in states controlled by the GOP.

It really lays out just how much of the GOP's agenda remains 'here's the people we've voted to hurt, vote for us so we can hurt them even more'.

This a flat out assault by Qpublicans on EVERYONE who isn't white, straight, hates abortion but loves guns and Trump.

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Trump Rails Against Joe Biden As New Wave Of Rallies Begins

The former Republican president teased the prospect of another presidential bid of his own in 2024, but vowed first to be an active presence on the campaign trail for his allies. Oh, joy. Meanwhile....

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Donald Trump’s Extended Facebook Ban Gets The Treatment On Twitter

“He would be raging about this on his blog, if he had not banned himself from posting on his blog,” one critic of the ex-president joked. I know this won't happen, but the heads of Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Tik Tok, et al should get together and draft a letter to send to Trump saying they'll fully restore his social media access, but with the following, non-negoitiable condition, Trump has to go on TV in primetime and say the following to the nation:

1) Admit he lost the election
2) Acknowledge Joe Biden as the legally elected president
3) Order Qpublicans to cooperate with Democrats with the bipartisan 1/6 commission

Only after that would Trump be allowed to return to social media....but on a one year probational basis, one hint of him stirring up his base like he had prior to the Capitol Riot would result in the permanent ban being reinstated. Would Trump go along with that? HIGHLY unlikely, but having the screws put to him in that manner would be delicious!

[worstblogever]

On this date in 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, as well as 2020, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day posted profiles of the current U.S. House Representative for Indiana’s’ 8th Congressional District, Larry Bucshon, who since getting elected to Congress in 2010, has participated in the widespread campaign of Republican obstructionism, and making a name for himself as an exemplary climate change denialist. See, in September of 2014, he actually made the claim that climate change science is fraudulent because scientists are only producing studies that say it exists, and it is man-made, because if they didn’t, they would be out of a career. Never mind that scientists produce DATA to back up what they’re saying all the time, though. Bucshon is opposed to same-sex marriage to the extent that he has went on record to whine about how he felt the Justice Department wasn’t enforcing the Defense of Marriage Act and is so Pro-Life that he sponsored the “Life Begins at Conception Act”, which would have effectively not only criminalized abortion, but most forms of birth control. Bucshon also voted for the 2013 Government Shutdown, and at the vote to re-open the government, voted to keep it closed. He did the same in late 2018 to early 2019 with the longest government shutdown in our nation's history, as well.

Bucshon, though, still gets to enjoy a +15 Republican lean that Indiana’s 8th Congressional District has, and that helped him get re-elected with 67% of the vote in 2020. He has returned to the capitol, and now in the minority party, remains a hyper-partisan twit.

• December 18th, 2019: Rep. Bucshon ignores his Congressional duty to hold a president who has been proven to commit high crimes and misdemeanors accountable and votes against the first impeachment of Donald Trump.
• May 15th, 2020: Bucshon votes against the HEROES Act, to further support the healthcare industry and citizens affected by the Covid-19 pandemic.
• January 13th, 2021: Rep. Bucshon votes against the second impeachment of Donald Trump, because the Republican Party no longer feels like they should be accountable for anything, including failed coups that result in the deaths of both their participants and police officers.
• February 4th, 2021: Larry Bucshon votes to keep Marjorie Taylor Greene’s committee assignments, because he wouldn’t want her to be accountable for all the bigoted remarks and conspiracy theories she’s spread online (probably because she’s a kindred spirit).
• February 25th, 2021: Bucshon votes against HR 5, the latest version of the Equality Act, that would provide workplace protections for LGBTQ Americans.
• March 3rd, 2021: Rep. Bucshon votes against HR 1, a bill created to prevent the corruption of money in politics, and protect voter access to the ballot box.
• March 3rd, 2021: Larry Bucshon votes against the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act of 2021.
• March 10th, 2021: Bucshon votes against the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021, because he feels people deserve to die in poverty during a pandemic.
• March 17th, 2021: Rep. Bucshon votes against the re-authorization of the Violence Against Women Act, likely because they feel the 2nd Amendment remaining absolute is more important than preventing people with a history of domestic abuse from owning a firearm (which statistics show, makes them more likely to use those firearms against women in their lives).
• May 19th, 2021: Larry Bucshon votes against HR 3233, the creation of a commission to investigate the Capitol Attack.

Bucshon’s actually got an MD, but we’re going to be honest, the man seems to have forgotten the Hippocratic Oath. Instead, he has apparently recited the loyalty pledge to Donald Trump, because he ignored all medical experts and all logic that he should have picked up in med school this past year, proving so when he called for the country to “reopen” in April of 2020. Regardless of if that opening would cost, y’know, tens of thousands of lives. In June 2020, he was throwing a tantrum that Nancy Pelosi has mandated members of the House and staff continue to wear masks unless providing proof they have been vaccinated, pointing out that many people like him will refuse the vaccine until their last.

Again, a former doctor, not just refusing life-saving vaccines, put putting his own politics ahead of public health with an ignorant f***ing statement like that.

Larry Bucshon has now been in office 12 years, and somehow the people of Indiana’s 8th have yet to realize his dumb ass has accomplished nothing in that time for their benefit. No major legislation passed, nothing of note except some dumbass empty quotes. (HINT: They can do better.)

[Mister Mets]

Here is Kurt Eichenwald's Discussion Thread on the subject

Thanks for the link.

I quote Ken White (AKA Popehat) a lot, and I suppose one reason I find him reliable is that he's open about the times his understanding of the law differs from what he would do if he were in charge.

Eichenwald's interpretation is interesting in that he thinks Heller was correct when it came to handguns and DC law, but Scalia was wrong to go with a broader ruling.

This gets messy, as handguns are a majority of gun homicides.

As I have said NRA - 2nd Amendment advocates ignore the Well Regulated part and think there should be NO restrictions on firearm ownership.
Heller was an travesty by Scalia, and there are reams of articles and scholarly writings pointing out how wrong he was. Easy to Google.

Here John Yonchuck tells White where he got it wrong.
https://twitter.com/No1Lion99/status...27243192524801

Heller is still a major decision by the Supreme Court, so lower courts are bound by it, even when considering the applications to a law passed before that decision.

If Heller says that that a law is unconstitutional if it "bans a firearm that is commonly owned by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes" that is the current legal understanding.

It's also entirely reasonable for a judge to agree with a relatively recent Supreme Court majority.

That's more NRA BS your spouting 30.
There has been plenty also written how they do not dismiss the "Well Regulated" part.. Heller was still a ruling that ignored President, for Scalia's own agenda.
And many States specified White Men. So let's keep that too, huh?

Later amendments and decisions expanded the right beyond white men.

If the fourteenth amendment is important, it's also going to be relevant to the second.

[worstblogever]

There is a debate brewing on whether Donald Trump showed up to his speech at the NC GOP convention last night... if Trump was wearing a diaper under his business slacks, or if he had his pants on backwards.

Feel free to observe the video in the linked Twitter post, and weigh in.

[Gray Lensman]

There is a debate brewing on whether Donald Trump showed up to his speech at the NC GOP convention last night... if Trump was wearing a diaper under his business slacks, or if he had his pants on backwards.

Feel free to observe the video in the linked Twitter post, and weigh in.

"And" is always a possibility that people tend to forget. Trump seems to have been wearing a diaper underneath his pants, which were worn backwards.

Recalibrate that beaming device, Mr. Scroob.

[worstblogever]

"And" is always a possibility that people tend to forget. Trump seems to have been wearing a diaper underneath his pants, which were worn backwards.

Recalibrate that beaming device, Mr. Skroob.

Trump last night:

[CSTowle]

There is a debate brewing on whether Donald Trump showed up to his speech at the NC GOP convention last night... if Trump was wearing a diaper under his business slacks, or if he had his pants on backwards.

Feel free to observe the video in the linked Twitter post, and weigh in.

Not a fan of Trump, but probably should hold up on making fun of forgetful people who may not have control of all their bodily functions while also supporting Joe Biden. I support him too, but watching him speak sometimes feels like watching an 8 year old kid trying to properly recite their lines in in a school play in that I cringe at times and think to myself "oh please don't f##k this up" or "c'mon Joe, you can do it". Less so now that he has the Presidency, but it was pretty bad for a while.

And, if true, also pretty far down the list as far as objectionable traits he has. Almost makes you feel sympathetic, humanizes him. Almost.

[InformationGeek]

So, Manchin is refusing to vote for Democrats' election bill or end the filibuster. Just awful. Just really, really awful.

Manchin: “I believe that partisan voting legislation will destroy the already weakening binds of our democracy, and for that reason, I will vote against the For the People Act. Furthermore, I will not vote to weaken or eliminate the filibuster.”

[Kirby101]

Not a fan of Trump, but probably should hold up on making fun of forgetful people who may not have control of all their bodily functions while also supporting Joe Biden. I support him too, but watching him speak sometimes feels like watching an 8 year old kid trying to properly recite their lines in in a school play in that I cringe at times and think to myself "oh please don't f##k this up" or "c'mon Joe, you can do it". Less so now that he has the Presidency, but it was pretty bad for a while.

And, if true, also pretty far down the list as far as objectionable traits he has. Almost makes you feel sympathetic, humanizes him. Almost.

Part of Biden's speech patterns is that he is a stutterer. He will pause and find another word when he feels he might start to stutter.

[CaptainEurope]

Don't know that he's a Trump/McConnell appointed judge, but that's the sort of nonsense we're going to have to live with for decades after his fat orange stain has faded from everyday politics.

I read that he was appointed by George W. Bush.

[Kirby101]

So, Manchin is refusing to vote for Democrats' election bill or end the filibuster. Just awful. Just really, really awful.

He is basically waiting for the Party that is passing voter suppression bills, and has publicly stated that that is the only way they can win, to join the Democrats on laws to fight Voter Suppression.
It's hard to know if he is just blind to what the Senate and the GOP has become because these are his "buddies". Or he knows what he is saying is bullshit and he just doesn't give a damn if we lose our Democracy.