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    I think the thing that's also important to is that because of the two party system, we've essentially got the Nazi party and the party of everybody else. The Nazi party will lockstep vote for whatever the Fuhrer tells them to, where as the Dems have a huge ideological range, going from people like AOC all the way to what used to be Republicans like Manchin. I think this is one of the big reasons why this kind of stuff never gets passed/takes to long, they only want to go for a sure thing on such a big issue and don't want to have the same thing that's been happening with Manchin/Sinema to happen, that just leaves wasted time, potential lost voters, and a huge blow to enthusiasm. Now, don't get me wrong, i'm frustrated as hell with the Dems too on a lot of this, and have been disappointed more than a few times since Biden took office(I always expected Biden to be a speedbump on the road to facism and not a reversal anyway) but...kind of a damned if you do damned if you don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handsome men don't lose fights View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    Okay so a minor soapbox here.

    I saw a story that a group of Democratic Law makers here in Ohio are going to introduce a bill protecting abortion rights. it is sure to fail in the GOP lead State. The Democrats also tried to introduce a bill like this on the federal level. What really bothers me is they are all freaking out and wanting to get this done because of the SC leak. And they are all yelling about how they are the protectors of woman's rights. But why did it take a SC leak to even start this process? These are bills that should have been introduced time and time again over the last few decades. The GOP has always been up front about their plans to over turn Roe V Wade if they got the SC. But so many Dems did nothing for years at least not in a serious way to pass a law in congress. Now that they see it is too late they are trying harder now then they ever have on both the state and Federal level and some of them want to be hailed as heroes for the too little too late approach. It irks me.
    I wonder if they were worried that efforts to prepare for an overturning of Roe VS Wade might have contributed to legal arguments for an overturning of Roe VS Wade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    In some good news, Madison Cawthorne appears to have lost his primary.

    https://twitter.com/Redistrict/statu...41238803836928
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    Here in Pennsylvania:

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    Not sure where he is from. His name was Colion Noir. Tucker spent the first part of his show using the "Biden is going to take your guns because of this." GOP Playbook.

    Edit - Yes he is from Texas.
    Yep. I knew it. Thanks.

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    Despite the GOP trying to make Roe v Wade about the rights of unborn children, the law is essentially about people's right to privacy. If Roe is overturned and made a state-rights issue, it also opens the door to possible state legislation mandating the use of birth control for teenagers and state digital databases of firearms owners and weapons sales.
    Democrats need to remind Republicans that this is a double-edged sword.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    In some good news, Madison Cawthorne appears to have lost his primary.

    https://twitter.com/Redistrict/statu...41238803836928
    Wow, that's really serious.

    The young man must have really irked his party members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    In some good news, Madison Cawthorne appears to have lost his primary.

    https://twitter.com/Redistrict/statu...41238803836928
    Has it been officially called? Because last I saw he was behind slightly, but there were still some precincts to report in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnakinFlair View Post
    Has it been officially called? Because last I saw he was behind slightly, but there were still some precincts to report in.
    He conceded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    Yeah, just saw that. Good riddance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    Okay so a minor soapbox here.

    I saw a story that a group of Democratic Law makers here in Ohio are going to introduce a bill protecting abortion rights. it is sure to fail in the GOP lead State. The Democrats also tried to introduce a bill like this on the federal level. What really bothers me is they are all freaking out and wanting to get this done because of the SC leak. And they are all yelling about how they are the protectors of woman's rights. But why did it take a SC leak to even start this process? These are bills that should have been introduced time and time again over the last few decades. The GOP has always been up front about their plans to over turn Roe V Wade if they got the SC. But so many Dems did nothing for years at least not in a serious way to pass a law in congress. Now that they see it is too late they are trying harder now then they ever have on both the state and Federal level and some of them want to be hailed as heroes for the too little too late approach. It irks me.
    Actually, that's not entirely correct. Congresswoman Judy Chu has tried several times since 2013.

    Women's Health Protection Act of 2013 H.R. 3471, S. 1696
    Women's Health Protection Act of 2015 H.R. 448, S. 217
    Women's Health Protection Act of 2017 H.R. 1322, S. 510
    WomenÂ’s Health Protection Act of 2019 H.R. 2975, S. 1645
    WomenÂ’s Health Protection Act of 2021 H.R. 3755, S. 1975
    Women's Health Protection Act of 2022 S. 4132
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%...Protection_Act

    Before that there was the Freedom of Choice was introduced in 2004 and 2006, and 2007, with earlier versions in 1989 and 1993.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Choice_Act

    And then there was the passage of the ERA constitutional amendment 50 years ago, which STILL hasn't been ratified and arguably could provide some protection for abortion rights. And honestly, I think this may be the best chance, short of winning a super majority or doing away with the filibuster, to regain abortion rights.


    So, no, this isn't a recent thing. It's something that Democrats have been trying to codify for decades. But, it IS a hot issue, so politicians have repeatedly done the math to see if it "worth" spending the political capital -- especially as time went on and Roe was settled precedent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    In some good news, Madison Cawthorne appears to have lost his primary.

    https://twitter.com/Redistrict/statu...41238803836928
    Awesome news! One down, and another 100 to go!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    In some good news, Madison Cawthorne appears to have lost his primary.

    https://twitter.com/Redistrict/statu...41238803836928
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    That's what happens when you snitch on the cocaine orgies.
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    Wow, that's really serious.

    The young man must have really irked his party members.
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    Yeah, just saw that. Good riddance.
    It ain't even as complicated as all of that.

    Dude's "Clown Shoes..." nonsense was making it so a hard working Republican politician at the Federal level wasn't even going to be able to make a buck off of holding Federal office.

    You start doing that?

    You're gonna have to go. One way or the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChadH View Post
    Despite the GOP trying to make Roe v Wade about the rights of unborn children, the law is essentially about people's right to privacy. If Roe is overturned and made a state-rights issue, it also opens the door to possible state legislation mandating the use of birth control for teenagers and state digital databases of firearms owners and weapons sales.
    Democrats need to remind Republicans that this is a double-edged sword.
    There is an "Actually 'In Writing...'..." Right that would trump that at the Federal level in The Second Amendment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    There is an "Actually 'In Writing...'..." Right that would trump that at the Federal level in The Second Amendment...
    Really? A digital database of firearms owners seems to fit right in with the "Well regulated" clause as far as I'm concerned.
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