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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    Are you sure?

    No setup here, just asking plainly.
    Simply put. YES. See Tendrin's analysis, below:

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    If the vote trends hold in Wisconsin and Michigan, Biden wins, Pennsylvania nonwithstanding.

    And it's looking like he's got both. Trump losing Arizona was a disaster for him.
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    There's a reason that Trump wants to run it to the Supreme Court. He wants the stacked court to save him.

    The thing is... I'm not sure they care about him. They got what they wanted. He is, in fact, expendable to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venomous Mask View Post
    Anyone got a link to an election results/updates page that's better than Google?
    Depends. I check out Washington Post, New York Times, MSNBC, CNN websites to compare their takes on the results. There may be more objective sites out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venomous Mask View Post
    Anyone got a link to an election results/updates page that's better than Google?
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/elections-2020/results

    Best I've seen. New York Times is second best, but they don't do a good job of tracking where the outstanding ballots are coming from, or what the party demographics are like in those counties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    I did ask her this several times. I dont any more. her only answers are clichés and talking points from Fox news. She has no idea what he really stands for. All she knows is he is not Trump (Who is the greatest president in history) And that he is of course a hardcore socialist, Pelosi's puppet, Hunter's emails Blah Blah, Blah....

    She cant defend anything. She is like a parrot just repeating everything Fox news says.
    To be honest, I don't blame you, she sounds stubborn. The only way someone like that would ever change their mind is if they were forced out of the bubble.

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    This is interesting. Trump can’t scream about allowing the vote count in PA to keep going because he pretty much needs Arizona to keep counting

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    This election is both stressful and sad. I can't believe most americans still think Trump is a good president after all that has happened this year alone. Honesty, it seems it would take a divine miracle for Joe to win this thing. At least the state I live in ( Virginia) stayed blue.

    Yes, I know not everyone who voted for Trump is a bad person, but it just boggles my mind as to why they support him SMH.

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    I am having the most emotional whiplash right now. The election has been stressing me out, so I've been watching haka dances on youtube for balance, hakas are very beautiful. So don't look at the google map anymore, got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron_Legion87 View Post
    This election is both stressful and sad. I can't believe most americans still think Trump is a good president after all that has happened this year alone. Honesty, it seems it would take a divine miracle for Joe to win this thing. At least the state I live in ( Virginia) stayed blue.

    Yes, I know not everyone who voted for Trump is a bad person, but it just boggles my mind as to why they support him SMH.
    It's less about 'Trump good' for a lot of them, but rather 'dems bad'. The dems are socialists, baby killers, etc, etc. For an even bigger number, they're voting to escape culpability. To admit they were wrong to back Trump makes them culpable for the disasters that have followed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron_Legion87 View Post
    This election is both stressful and sad. I can't believe most americans still think Trump is a good president after all that has happened this year alone. Honesty, it seems it would take a divine miracle for Joe to win this thing. At least the state I live in ( Virginia) stayed blue.

    Yes, I know not everyone who voted for Trump is a bad person, but it just boggles my mind as to why they support him SMH.
    Because they feel like everyone else has ignored them, hasn't done enough to support them, ect. Ect. They're the people who feel like they've been forgotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    It's less about 'Trump good' for a lot of them, but rather 'dems bad'. The dems are socialists, baby killers, etc, etc. For an even bigger number, they're voting to escape culpability. To admit they were wrong to back Trump makes them culpable for the disasters that have followed.
    Right and some of them only support Trump due to their distain of Barrack Obama. Like Trump literally foams at the mouth at the mention of the guy, because he has always been envious of the fact when Barrack was president people actually admired and respected him. This combined with Trump's lowkey racism was his main motivation for running for President. His supporters would freak if Barrack got 8 years and Trump only got 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Depends. I check out Washington Post, New York Times, MSNBC, CNN websites to compare their takes on the results. There may be more objective sites out there.
    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/elections-2020/results

    Best I've seen. New York Times is second best, but they don't do a good job of tracking where the outstanding ballots are coming from, or what the party demographics are like in those counties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron_Legion87 View Post
    Right and some of them only support Trump due to their distain of Barrack Obama. Like Trump literally foams at the mouth at the mention of the guy, because he has always been envious of the fact when Barrack was president people actually admired and respected him. This combined with Trump's lowkey racism was his main motivation for running for President. His supporters would freak if Barrack got 8 years and Trump only got 4.
    They voted *for the racism*, and I think a lot of Americans let down their guard about how powerful that appeal still is to a lot of peopel who see race relations as zero sum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChangingStation View Post
    Because they feel like everyone else has ignored them, hasn't done enough to support them, ect. Ect. They're the people who feel like they've been forgotten.
    This is true.

    The thing is, the people voting for Trump know exactly what he is. However, he’s given a voice to a lot of people that felt “excluded” (for good or for bad).

    And given his improved performance in terms of raw vote count, he’s converted a lot of people onto side. The issue is that an even greater majority of people don’t agree with him or his behavior. Racism, recklessness and belligerence aren’t endearing qualities. And because of the electoral college, the country’s policy and direction could be determined by a minority of the population.

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    Hmm..Trump is still maintaining a narrow lead in Michigan.

    Are they still counting the mail in ballots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChangingStation View Post
    Because they feel like everyone else has ignored them, hasn't done enough to support them, ect. Ect. They're the people who feel like they've been forgotten.
    Trump doesn't care about poor or lower class folks, doesn't really care about people of color either. His support base is predominantly white America and I am not sure how they feel forgotten about or not supported. Like what???

    But there is a good number of people of color that support him too for some weird reason.

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