All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[shooshoomanjoe]

Can Trump run again in 2004

Yea, if he's not dead, ill or behind bars.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

NV, WI, & MI are all around a 30K vote difference or less.

That is nuts.

The GA keep creeping closer, too.

How close are they to calling it for WI , MI and NV ?

[Joker]

Wisconsin called it for Biden.

[BeastieRunner]

Can Trump run again in 2004

Not unless a Constitutional amendment is passed. Which is not happening with how divided the states and government is at the moment.

EDIT:

I just realized you meant if he loses this one.

Yes, he can.

How close are they to calling it for WI , MI and NV ?

vvvv I was about to post this. vvvv

Wisconsin called it for Biden.

[FluffyCyclopsRLZ]

Good to see those Rust Belt states being flipped. For now anyway.

Biden winning is important, but this election has been a disaster everywhere else. The Senate is a GOP majority, the Republicans gained seats in the House, gerrymandering is guaranteed to worsen, Trump got validation in the form of being more embraced by the minority vote, the Gorsuch/Kavanagh/Barrett situation in the court is unactionable now. Mitch will hold off a relief Bill and Blake Biden as the economy tanks.

Trump going is obviously a huge deal, but this isn’t some victory lap either. Biden is going to severely struggle to claim a mandate and he’s going to be flanked everywhere. Obamacare is pretty much still at the mercy of the courts.

This is not a happy ending. To give you an analogy this is like having in chess if you get your opponent to sacrifice his queen in exchange for losing both rooms and a bishop and now your pawn positioning is all messed up. Like yeah you have the most powerful piece, but everything is a landline and you can’t maximize it

Loving the analogy.

[Hypestyle]

USPS Fails To Meet Deadline To Permit Search For 300,000 Missing Mailed Ballots

Coincidence? Shouldn't DeJoy be sent to prison for this?

he needs to go to prison and a whole bunch of other folks. there needs to be a dramatic overhaul of funding and complete executive changes made to the post office. End that dumb pension-funding rule, for starters. That accelerated a lot of the madness.

Democratic-sympathetic millionaires and billionaires need to start actively funding voter recruitment and retention campaigns in southern and Swing states, especially racial minority outreach. this is the demographic future for the Democrats, if they take this seriously. Or else they're constantly going to be dealing with disasters like this time around and also senate races where it's always a given that white, modestly populated states always have two guaranteed Republicans getting into office.

[Revolutionary_Jack]

Yea, if he's not dead, ill or behind bars.

Trump can run again but the problem is that the last non-consecutive Presidential Terms happened before term limits. When you had no term limits, backing a candidate who lost once and is coming again could be justified as an investment,

but with term limits, why back a candidate who can guarantee a four year term at best rather than another candidate who can give you 8.

The POTUS term limits needs a constitutional amendment and the Dems will not support it.

Furthermore, the stink of a "one-term President" which Trump will carry will be hard to shake.

[Bruce Wayne]

They don't need Trump. They can just continue along the path he has charted. The election showed that the demographic decline of the GOP is absolutely not a thing.

[Revolutionary_Jack]

They don't need Trump. They can just continue along the path he has charted. The election showed that the demographic decline of the GOP is absolutely not a thing.

It's way to early to decide that yet, wait till the votes are all counted individually.

But again the demographic decline of the GOP not being a thing makes me want to talk about an AZ I would like to sell to you (fun fact I have a friend who is a registered AZ voter and they voted blue, so me and my pals have been treating them like a goddamn hero all day).

And Texas proved pretty competitive, not competitive enough but more than expected in light of other terms.

[babyblob]

The truth is that nothing could have stopped the virus coming into the US. But the manner of approach is key.

Trump's cavalier attitude, lies and generally fueling conspiracy theories really accelerated the impact of the virus in the US. In addition, he actively supported "aggressive" anti-mask protests which almost culminated in the kidnap of a governor.

A countrywide mask mandate might not be the way to go but working with the states with a cool head and calming EVERYONE down (and not this stupid blue and red state garbage) would help. Not to mention that working with scientists to develop workable solutions is the most likely tact Biden would take. That whole "science is bad" nonsense would be gone and gone for good.

He will get rid of the science is bad in the administration. And he will have his followers believing the science. But how does he reach all the Trumpers who will not follow the science, masks, vaccine, and doing things he advises because he is Biden? I havnt really heard him or any of his supporters say what he is going to do to address that.

Edit - He will put more funding into tests, and vaccines. He will go with his doctors and not call them idiots and contradict them. That is what he will do different. And that will help. But it will not the minds of the hardcore people who already doubt masks and the science.

[Username taken]

I think we are being a little bit too negative on the democrats. Considering this massive turnout, I would argue that the democrats did very well to get this many people to vote Biden.

As much as we say Trump is unpopular, he still has the power of incumbency and one term Presidency isn't something that happens regularly. For a lot of people it's a case of the "devil you know" and we shouldn't downplay just how much misinformation has colored people's opinions on democrats via social media and the internet (conservatives have been far more effective in this regard and their messaging is a lot more ubiquitous on YouTube and Facebook). Obviously, the democrats need to improve the ground game but the truth is that despite the "approval ratings" saying Trump is unpopular that quite clearly isn't true.

Yes, we all wanted a blue wave but considering the sheer number of votes Biden and Trump are getting that was never going to happen. But in all this, there is room for improvement but we shouldn't act Biden winning the White House and removing an incumbent President isn't a big deal, it quite clearly is.

[wjowski]

I maintain that the only people who really pay close attention to politics are being paid for it. It’s their job.

The rest of us, it’s just a lot to ask. Unfortunately. Most people don’t have the time or energy. I wish that weren’t the case but politics isn’t sexy like sports or tv.

You can either pay attention to what's happening in politics or you can be ruled over by the people who do.

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

Can Trump run again in 2004

Not without a time machine. But in 2024? Yeah

[numberthirty]

Biden winning is important, but this election has been a disaster everywhere else. The Senate is a GOP majority, the Republicans gained seats in the House, gerrymandering is guaranteed to worsen, Trump got validation in the form of being more embraced by the minority vote, the Gorsuch/Kavanagh/Barrett situation in the court is unactionable now. Mitch will hold off a relief Bill and Blake Biden as the economy tanks.

Trump going is obviously a huge deal, but this isn’t some victory lap either. Biden is going to severely struggle to claim a mandate and he’s going to be flanked everywhere. Obamacare is pretty much still at the mercy of the courts.

This is not a happy ending. To give you an analogy this is like having in chess if you get your opponent to sacrifice his queen in exchange for losing both rooms and a bishop and now your pawn positioning is all messed up. Like yeah you have the most powerful piece, but everything is a landline and you can’t maximize it

To put this simply...

One of the arguments against Sanders was that he potentially hurt everything down ticket.

Look at how this went. It is one of the lousiest "Win..." outcomes you could get.

[numberthirty]

Also thank god for Bloomberg’s 100 million dollars in Florida

"Business As Usual..." Dems and their supporters don't get to tell anyone anything for a really long time.

Glad this might work out, but it is a massive wasted opportunity.