"The story so far: As usual, Ginger and I are engaged in our quest to find out what the hell is going on and save humanity from my nemesis, some bastard who is presumably responsible." - Sir Digby Chicken Caesar.
“ Well hell just froze over. Because CM Punk is back in the WWE.” - Jcogginsa.
“You can take the boy outta the mom’s basement, but you can’t take the mom’s basement outta the boy!” - LA Knight.
"Revel in What You Are." Bray Wyatt.
I wonder if it’s that widespread this tendency to consider that you are for a group or against. The neutral position is suspect. You haven’t uttered the correct words that proved your belonging to their group. So you are rejected.
It reminds me when my cousin made listen a sound recording about a performer he liked. After hearing it, I said I didn’t like it. I was astounded by the roughness of his reaction: he felt betrayed. He didn’t expect it. And it was just a cultural disagreement.
I think people listen to you only when they don’t suspect you to be against them.
“Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe
What I think is more likely is decentralized domestic terrorism by the militias. The egos of their leadership have - at least so far - prevented their various factions from coalescing under a central figure, or even committee. I don't see that changing.
What I do see, and think a reasonable risk, is that they continue to recruit an inflame angry young bigots. A straight up Civil War? I don't think so. More Kenosha shooters? Yeah, that's believable.
Remember that link I provided to you before? Well, it basically shows a really simple guide showing the dos and don'ts of reconnecting to a Trump fan family member.
I'm going to transcribe it.
Steps for Starting a Positive Conversation:
- Use Good Communication Strategies and Active Listening to Keep the Dialogue Open and Civil.
- Engage in Compassionate Listening to Stimulate Critical Thinking.
- Learn About How Mind Control Works.
Do:
- Remember this is still the person you know and love.
- Establish Rapport and Trust by acting with Respect Warmth and Integrity.
- Be Curious and Ask Open Ended Questions.
- Keep a collaborative- rather than competitive - frame of mind.
- Find Common Ground, focusing on things you can agree upon.
Don't:
- Engage in Name Calling or insults.
- Frame the conversation as an argument to be won.
- Insult Trump to them.
- Cut off or interrupt the person. (Apparently people usually give others three seconds to respond)
- Belittle, insult or mock their beliefs.
- Isolate yourself away from the person.
Ask:
- "Help me understand how you came to become such a strong supporter."
- "Can you imagine any circumstance which might lead to you losing confidence in Trump?"
Or we can stop spending energy trying to "reconnect" with assholes who co signed Trump's hateful rhetoric?
The scale of a Civil War is hard to understand.
When the American Civil War broke out...Dixie Senators, Reps, Dixie Scotuses all left their positions in Washington. Imagine a chunk of the US Senate and the US Reps on Capitol Hill straight up resigning and going to Richmond and saying this is now the Capital of the Confederat States. Imagine Kavanaugh or Alito or Roberts all leaving the SCOTUSES and going over to take positions in the CSA government. Because that's what happened. Imagine Governors in NC and SC sending troops on borders and so on, and then ordering these troops to fire on Federal Property which happened on Fort Sumter. Imagine Ron DeSantis ordering a state militia on a US Military Base in Florida, just for argument. Imagine Gov. Abbott doing that.
That's when you have a civil war.
Militias and shooters and riots and so on...those are terrible, they can be murderous, but roughly they can be handled. Well assuming it doesn't take the scale of the Draft Riots which so far, touch wood, doesn't seem likely. Modern militia aren't like the cut-throat street gangs of 19th Century cities.
I did read the link you posted. And I have tried these things that you typed up. All it ended with was her bitching and calling me a traitor to the country. Every thing I ask her to defend is just Fox News Talking points and word for word rehashes of Trump tweets. I have given up. There is no getting through to her. There is no calm and relaxing talk about the issues because all she does is desolve into a bitch fit and rant.
A few days ago I just started closing the door and ignoring but I really did try and engage her in a normal way the last two days and it is not working at all.
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Interesting factoid: Both Trump and Biden will both end up being one-term presidents. In Trump’s case, it will be because he lost re-election, while in Biden’s case it won’t get a second because he won’t seek re-election how old he will be(Biden will be 81 by the time his first term ends in 2024).
"I love mankind...it's people I can't stand!!"
- Charles Schultz.
"The story so far: As usual, Ginger and I are engaged in our quest to find out what the hell is going on and save humanity from my nemesis, some bastard who is presumably responsible." - Sir Digby Chicken Caesar.
“ Well hell just froze over. Because CM Punk is back in the WWE.” - Jcogginsa.
“You can take the boy outta the mom’s basement, but you can’t take the mom’s basement outta the boy!” - LA Knight.
"Revel in What You Are." Bray Wyatt.