All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[The Cool Thatguy]

The frivolous lawsuits get smacked down.

One of the arguments people use in Stacey Abrams' favor is that she never filed any lawsuits, although this has the downside that she made some serious claims and insinuations, without putting it up to the scrutiny of the legal process.

Not everyone has millions to spend on lawyers, especially when the Republicans have stacked the judges in their favor.

[Amadeus Arkham]

In a year as dark as 2020 here’s some light at the end of the tunnel.

The Moderna vaccine is 94.5% effective against coronavirus, according to early data released by the company, making it the second vaccine in the US to have a stunningly high success rate.

A vaccine alone won’t be the thing that ends the pandemic. More mask wearing and social distancing will also need to be done. These two things that so many of America has been so unwilling to do. Even if America does get competent leadership come January, I don’t know how effective Biden will be in combating the virus when even the mere issue of mask wearing has such a bizarre partisan divide. I fully expect those Trumpers who are still angry and think the election was rigged will likely refuse to listen to anything the new Commander in Chief says. Which is sad, but not surprising.

[Steel Inquisitor]

Weirdly, it seems that the board is censoring "*********" in any links, and replacing it with asterisks, so if anyone want to check those links, they should replace the asterisks with "*********"

The existing law in Georgia was that if someone had not voted in seven years, they get notified by mail, prior to the removal from the rolls. That law had been passed under democratic leadership in the 90s, and applied only to people who had not voted for seven years, including Obama's reelection. You could disagree with the law, but it was the law.

That law wasn't being broken, this is ignoring what my link said. That the facts were ignored in this response to defend gross Republican misconduct speaks volumes.

[Revolutionary_Jack]

That law wasn't being broken, this is ignoring what my link said. That the facts were ignored in this response to defend gross Republican misconduct speaks volumes.

That's the thing with Republicans, no responsibility, no accountability, no soul searching, not one moment of "are we the baddies?", not one engagement with stuff and goings on in the wider world.

[Tendrin]

That's the thing with Republicans, no responsibility, no accountability, no soul searching, not one moment of "are we the baddies?", not one engagement with stuff and goings on in the wider world.

Just a whole lot of 'Well, the Democrats ...'.

Because, trying to paint the other side as equally 'guilty' somehow is all republicans have.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Just a whole lot of 'Well, the Democrats ...'.

Because, trying to paint the other side as equally 'guilty' somehow is all republicans have.

It makes them not appear as bad as they are, really. The grey fallacy drags both sides down.

[Revolutionary_Jack]

It makes them not appear as bad as they are, really. The grey fallacy drags both sides down.

It's more precisely the "Golden Mean Fallacy", the idea that the center between two arguments is automatically right. That kind of thinking is rife in America across the board, and it's ridiculous.

And it's always selective. We must always be more compassionate to the right wing than the victims of the right wing.

[Joker]

It's like the anti maskers that are mad at Governors for imposing restrictions again, instead of themselves for not following the rules to begin with. It's always someone else's fault.

[worstblogever]

On this date in 2014, "Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day" ran a profile of Glen Urquhart, who ran for the “at-large” seat in the U.S. House of Representatives for Delaware in 2010. Urquhart famously claimed during that election year that Adolf Hitler was the first person to advocate for a separation of church and state, and not Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, and further bastardized our third president by claiming his statements on “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” confirmed his opposition to abortion. Urquhart has not run for any office since losing the GOP Primary for a seat in the Delaware State Senate.

It was in both 2015, and in 2016, that “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day posted profiles of Sheryl Nuxoll, who in December of 2012, hatched a plan to steal the election by having 17 or more states that voted for Mitt Romney boycott the Electoral College to prevent them from having a quorum and re-electing Obama. There was just one problem… her plan was bogus because it hinged on an incorrect interpretation of the 12th Amendment. Anyway, she also compared the Affordable Care Act to the Holocaust, saying, much like the Jews boarding the trains to concentration camps the federal government “will pull the trigger on the insurance companies.“ Through the rest of her second term, Nuxoll didn’t quite make headlines for the remainder of her second term, with the exception of when she and her Republican colleagues tried to circumvent the Environmental Protection Agency, with Nuxoll claiming efforts by the EPA to regulate sludge mining were harming the morale of American veterans, and therefore unacceptable. Since heading back in for her third term, in March 2015, Nuxoll angrily walked out of the state House after a Hindu clergyman read a prayer for them, and then went on social media to complain about it and say that Hinduism is “a false faith with false Gods”. When she was called upon to apologize for those statements and disparaging an entire faith, she refused, and stood by them, calling the United States a Christian nation. Religious leaders in Idaho from several different faiths condemned her for being intolerant, but she wasn’t quite done. A month later in April 2015, and Nuxoll was causing trouble again, holding up a bill that if not passed, would leave the state without $46 million in child support funding from the federal government. Her reason for doing so? She felt the bill would somehow be too permissive, and allow the spread of Sharia Law to begin in Idaho. Ah yes. The dread menace of Sharia Law that our separation of church and state already protects us from. And that if it was coming, probably wouldn’t fall upon us because of a CHILD SUPPORT bill.Nuxoll is, to the hilt, a deranged zealot, as in February of 2016, she actually submitted a bill in the Idaho state legislature to have the King James Bible available as a resource not just in classes like English or history where it be relevant, but to have it available as a resource in science classes in public schools. Nuxoll was unseated in the GOP Primary for her seat in the 2016 elections by 111 votes, and is now out of office.



It was on this date in 2017, 2018, and in 2019, that “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” profiled Shannon Grove, who was first elected to the California State Assembly in… you guessed it, the 2010 Tea Party Wave. And, for three terms, Shannon Grove tried her damnedest to be an obstructionist force in the California State Assembly, impotently voting against some of the most common sense bills brought forth in her state while sucking up to nationally more-respected members of the GOP like Mike Huckabee, Ted Cruz, and Kevin McCarthy. Grove is also in pretty tight with the NRA, who in one of their manifestos criticizing California Democrats for actually passing effective gun control measures, they hit her up for a quote, and she gave the really pathetic response of:

“I would rather have a loaded Glock in my hand than 911 on the phone.”

(Note to self: Don’t ask Shannon Grove to call for help if in medical distress.)

Now, there are a lot of issues that when you look at them, are going to make you ask yourself “What the hell is wrong with Shannon Grove?” Perhaps the most glaring one was her vote against California’s law to curtail campus rape and sexual assault by better defining consent. One of the many measures it took was allowing state universities to expel students regardless of if they were found guilty in a court of law (say if a victim was intimidated into not pressing charges, the school would be able to keep the rest of the school safe. She defended her vote, saying:

“Those committing sexual assault within our college campuses should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law by our judicial system, not at a campus disciplinary proceeding.”

But we’re just getting warmed up. You see, back in 2015, while California was experiencing one of its worst droughts in decades, Grove stuck her foot in her mouth again, by commenting:

“Texas was in a long period of drought until Governor Perry signed the fetal pain bill. It rained that night. Now God has His hold on California.”

So hey, forget doing any superstitious rain dances, guys… the real solution is to make God happy with abortion bans, and he’ll up the precipitation levels. It’s a scientific fact, right? Unlike say, climate change or global warming, which Grove denies the existence of even though there’s like 98% of scientists who agree, “Yeah, that’s a thing all right.” I don’t know how many scientists link abortion and annual rainfall, but they’re definitely in Grove’s sphere of influence.

Here’s the kicker, though… for someone who’s totally pro-life and wants all the babies born that are conceived whether or not a woman gets raped, or if she’s at risk of dying by trying to carry that baby to term… you would think that Shannon Grove would love any government program that helps babies once they’re out of the womb, right? WRONG. Shannon Grove was left grousing after the California state legislature passed a bill so that people on government assistance with newborn children had some way to afford diapers, which she didn’t want them getting help paying for.

After choosing to not seek re-election to the California State Assembly in 2016, Shannon Grove has stocked her coffers to instead, run for California State Senate District 16, in 2018. Her opponent in the general election was Ruth Messer-Lopez, and with the district being traditionally more conservative, Grove was still re-elected with 67% of the vote. She was named to be the California State Senate Minority Leader at the start of the new session, and championed legislation to make it easier for police officers to murder citizens. Because of course that’s how she rolls.

Since our last update, Shannon Grove was filmed ignoring mask mandates and public gathering mandates by going to a campaign fundraiser held in a church that exceeded the limit for attendance by three times the legal amount. Wouldn’t you know it, there was also no social distancing and virtually no one wearing masks. This was also days after she was in close proximity to a fellow state legislator who had just tested positive for Covid-19, so at this point, to the constituents of her district, we ask… why are you voting for someone who’s willing to kill you to get your money for her campaign? That seems, y’know, pretty much as “against your interests” as anything you can see from a GOP that clearly does not have your best interests at heart.

[Mister Mets]

In a year as dark as 2020 here’s some light at the end of the tunnel.

The Moderna vaccine is 94.5% effective against coronavirus, according to early data released by the company, making it the second vaccine in the US to have a stunningly high success rate.

A vaccine alone won’t be the thing that ends the pandemic. More mask wearing and social distancing will also need to be done. These two things that so many of America has been so unwilling to do. Even if America does get competent leadership come January, I don’t know how effective Biden will be in combating the virus when even the mere issue of mask wearing has such a bizarre partisan divide. I fully expect those Trumpers who are still angry and think the election was rigged will likely refuse to listen to anything the new Commander in Chief says. Which is sad, but not surprising.

Great news.

Not everyone has millions to spend on lawyers, especially when the Republicans have stacked the judges in their favor.

Abrams was pretty effective as a fundraiser, and any win in the courts would bolster her side.

The courts have also been willing to rule against Republicans. A clearly wrong ruling could also be effective for messaging.

That law wasn't being broken, this is ignoring what my link said. That the facts were ignored in this response to defend gross Republican misconduct speaks volumes.

What fact was being ignored?

It seems Republican officials were blamed for following a law that was passed in the 1990s by Democrats, and this connects to Stacey Abrams' refusal to concede.

[Tami]

The Republican governor of Ohio is pushing for mask wearing and other safety measures to counter COVID

Trump is pushing to get someone to run against him in the next election.


And people actually voted for Trump?????

[PaulBullion]

It's like the anti maskers that are mad at Governors for imposing restrictions again, instead of themselves for not following the rules to begin with. It's always someone else's fault.

I read a nurse describing on twitter how patients who are VERY sick with covid-19 are using what air they have to scream at her that the virus is not deadly, so something else must be wrong with them and they will sue the hospital if they don't figure out the REAL cause of their illness.

So, yeah.

[PaulBullion]

The Republican governor of Ohio is pushing for mask wearing and other safety measures to counter COVID

Trump is pushing to get someone to run against him in the next election.


And people actually voted for Trump?????

The governor also seemed to accept the reality that Biden won the election, which might have been what really made Trump turn on him.

[Tami]

The governor also seemed to accept the reality that Biden won the election, which might have been what really made Trump turn on him.

Yeah, that's right. Either way, I'm glad Trump will be out of office in January. Though that won't stop him from causing trouble. That is, unless Twitter closes his account.

[PaulBullion]

Over in Georgia, Perdue refuses to debate Ossoff before the runoff election.

I hope this will lead to many media outlets playing the "it's not just that you're a crook..." moment from the last debate over and over.