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    There’s no salvation for this party. There just isn’t.

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    Disturbing. Again, if anyone's a psych major, you might want to specialize in cult deprogramming therapy, because we've got a need for it.


    Oh, and reports are out that the White House was briefed by the FBI about what the insurrectionists had planned. Down to the details of smashing in the windows and storming the building, and that they had maps of escape tunnels.

    The Trump White House, again, didn't just "do nothing" with this information, they held up the National Guard being called in for hours. 100% aiding the insurrection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus Arkham View Post

    There’s no salvation for this party. There just isn’t.
    Is Cruz trying to say when they said Hang Pence, they meant "Hang Pence a nice picture frame!"

    W.
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    How can "Hang Mike Pence" be taken out of context? I mean this is basically Shaggy Defense level of bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    Is Cruz trying to say when they said Hang Pence, they meant "Hang Pence a nice picture frame!"

    W.
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    FFFFFFFFFFFFF.
    I know I shouldn't be surprised but this keeps getting wilder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SquirrelMan View Post
    But incorrectly, or at least imprecisely.

    I don't know what his agenda is in trying to shut me up. But I have my eye on him.
    And I don’t know, or see what you’re talking about. The video was posted, and someone immediately said it wasn’t recent. You then said it’s old, and he said someone already covered that. *shrug*

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    America could get a majority of the population vaccinated, and achieve herd immunity one day but when will there be a time when we are vaccinated against the currently rampaging moral and intellectual virus known as Trumpism? Where does it end? How can we mitigate it? Better media? Destroying all right-wing propaganda media like Info Wars and Fox News?
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    It's just gaslighting. It's all they have.

    "MAGA-terrorists invaded the capitol."

    "No, it was ANTIFA."

    "We arrested perpetrators who insist they're not Antifa, they're die hard Trump supporters."

    "Well, they didn't want to really hurt anyone."

    "They were saying they were going to hang Mike Pence. They were attacking police officers, and murdered one. Others are still in the hospital."

    "Yes, but 'hang Mike Pence', that's taken out of context."

    "They brought a gallows and a noose, and were stealing news equipment, then using the cables to fashion more nooses."

    "Well, they were just caught up in the moment..."

    "They had detailed plans and brought equipment to breach the building, after discussing busting in to execute traitors in online posts."

    "Well, you can't expect the White House to have foreseen this..."

    "The White House was warned by the FBI a day in advance, and not only refused calls for advanced security, but as the chaos worsened, resisted calls to send backup for hours."

    "But there's no way they were sympathetic to the people who broke in..."

    "Multiple individuals including Trump, Giuliani, Mo Brooks, Josh Hawley, Mary Miller, Ginni Thomas, and Ted Cruz gave inciting speeches. That's not even everyone..."

    "That's out of context, too. It's not like anyone was helping these people in the building..."

    "Several Capitol Police officers appeared sympathetic and were letting the terrorists in. Against the specific instructions of the Sgt. At Arms, Rep. Lauren Boebert was not only making social media posts, but was specifically giving the location of Nancy Pelosi, who the mob was hunting for."

    "Yeah, but this is all coincidental. Don't divide us when the country needs UNITY."

    "Your party tried to murder its own VP candidate, and several members of the House and Senate. They brought equipment, radios, and attempted a siege of the building. They failed. Your definition of "unity" is not facing consequences for a conspiracy to overthrow the government. Get f***ed."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus Arkham View Post
    America could get a majority of the population vaccinated, and achieve herd immunity one day but when will there be a time when we are vaccinated against the currently rampaging moral and intellectual virus known as Trumpism? Where does it end? How can we mitigate it? Better media? Destroying all right-wing propaganda media like Info Wars and Fox News?
    You have roughly 35% of Americans trusting the press right now and roughly 15% approve of their legislators.

    I'd say trust in those 2 institutions are what needs to be raised to improve that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus Arkham View Post


    There’s no salvation for this party. There just isn’t.
    The mental gymnastics employed to absolve the insurrectionists of blame was staggering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    I should note, Republicans still have the option to NOT BE REPUBLICANS.

    Like all the people abandoning your party and switching affiliation right now? Because with Sheldon Adelson dying and all corporate sponsors pulling donations, maybe the writing is on the wall? DeVos and Chao and Chad Wolf ran for the exit.

    Or would other GOP members obstinately ride this fall all the way to the bottom? Because wouldn't you know it, Trump's approval ratings have finally started to crater. He's in the mid 30s, and getting lower. But not accepting blame for your own blatant attempt at a violent coup will do that.
    People who leave the party aren't able to vote in primaries and change the party.

    That gives even more power to the crazies.

    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    And thus, rather than change the analogy like a rational person would, the goalposts were moved.
    The goalposts remained the same.

    You edited out the part of my post explaining that.

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    But not everybody has the money for healthcare, because they’ve made sure it’s not just a for profit market, but what amounts to essentially an extortion racket existing in a capitalist country where the working class are treated with endless disregard, low pay, no benefits, and as I said, largely, an inability to obtain those benefits without employer assistance. So we know you’re well aware.

    **** ain’t the same as buying milk or using a free, privately owned social media app. Not even remotely. Nobody needs twitter, but healthy, prosperous societies need access to affordable food and health services. This is something your party constantly rallies against under the guise of “socialism” being bad.
    That is a different argument than the idea that is an example of hypocrisy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus Arkham View Post
    America could get a majority of the population vaccinated, and achieve herd immunity one day but when will there be a time when we are vaccinated against the currently rampaging moral and intellectual virus known as Trumpism? Where does it end? How can we mitigate it? Better media? Destroying all right-wing propaganda media like Info Wars and Fox News?
    Think of this and other forms of tribalistic mania less like an alien scourge, or a virus and more like an addiction. Much like alcohol and nicotine, that **** is toxic but feels GOOD to the point where it can gear a human mind to become more and more dependent on it. We put out PSAs explaining how deadly cigarettes are all the time.....It (alone) STILL doesn’t discourage hooked people - even those who fully understand they’re shortening their lifespan - from lighting one up as a quick wind-me-down. And as for alcohol? It bears even more similarity to the -isms that plague society today. Outlawing and punishing its use only made it thrive underground in the form of speakeasies. For an individual, simply “quitting” can be a long process with the threat of relapse ever present. That’s the scale of difficulty in addressing this problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    Pramila Jayapal has tested positive for COVID-19 after being in a room with mask dodging GOP in a crowded room during a Pandemic.
    https://jayapal.house.gov/2021/01/11/covid-test/




    Move the Inauguration away from the Capitol.

    Go back to Federal Hall, New York, where it all began.
    Perhaps it would have helped if she had worn a mask (1:23 in)



    Quote Originally Posted by Ragged Maw View Post
    Think of this and other forms of tribalistic mania less like an alien scourge, or a virus and more like an addiction. Much like alcohol and nicotine, that **** is toxic but feels GOOD to the point where it can gear a human mind to become more and more dependent on it. We put out PSAs explaining how deadly cigarettes are all the time.....It (alone) STILL doesn’t discourage hooked people - even those who fully understand they’re shortening their lifespan - from lighting one up as a quick wind-me-down. And as for alcohol? It bears even more similarity to the -isms that plague society today. Outlawing and punishing its use only made it thrive underground in the form of speakeasies. For an individual, simply “quitting” can be a long process with the threat of relapse ever present. That’s the scale of difficulty in addressing this problem.
    Do you think this only applies to Trump fans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    People who leave the party aren't able to vote in primaries and change the party.

    That gives even more power to the crazies.
    How has that worked out for you the last 10 years. Have you been able to make the Party more or less crazy? Your Party has become the Tea Party. Trump is still your Party leader, with no effort by your Party to do anything about him. 2/3 of the House Republicans backed the election fraud hoax that led to the insurrection, and that was after the riots. The House leadership endorsed it and there is zero accountability in your Party for those that fomented the attack. You are as effective as the "resistance" in the Trump White House. You don't get to endorse the Republican Party and not take responsibility for what they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    Perhaps it would have helped if she had worn a mask (1:23 in)




    Do you think this only applies to Trump fans?
    She has what looks like a black cloth mask in her hand so I'd assume she was wearing that when actually sequestered after this video was shot, but I suppose we don't really know.

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