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    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    He needs to run for something. Avenge his loss to Ted Cruz in '24, or taking on Abbott this year... either is good... but he hasn't proven he can win a statewide race yet.

    He narrowly lost to Ted Cruz. Since then, Ted helped lay the seeds for 1/6, fled to Cancun during a blizzard where Texans died, and now is disparaging the American military because it's "not as manly as Russia's".

    I think all that would help Beto narrow the gap. As well as the fact that the state is trending more left anyway.
    Beto should have focused on the state rather than enter the national contest in 2019-2020. He should have kept his eyes on the prize the way Stacey Abrams did with GA. Who knows if O'Rourke had focused on mobilizing his state maybe Texas Dem turnout would have been higher or more competitive in 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus Arkham View Post
    Oh, to be willfully stupid. Once you get past the emotional palpitations that are symptomatic of the fear/anger/paranoia they're spoon-fed, I'm sure their lives are just blissful.
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    Wrong thread!
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    You mean to tell me Manchin was actually ignorant of the fact Qpublicans want nothing to do with a 1/6 commission? Where the hell has he been? And what's he going to do, clutch his pearls like Susan Collins and write a strongly worded letter to Craven Kevin McCarthy insisting his GQP colleagues play nice?

    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    He needs to run for something. Avenge his loss to Ted Cruz in '24, or taking on Abbott this year... either is good... but he hasn't proven he can win a statewide race yet.

    He narrowly lost to Ted Cruz. Since then, Ted helped lay the seeds for 1/6, fled to Cancun during a blizzard where Texans died, and now is disparaging the American military because it's "not as manly as Russia's".

    I think all that would help Beto narrow the gap. As well as the fact that the state is trending more left anyway.
    Just my uninformed opinion, but a gubernatorial run might be a bridge too far for O'Rourke as I don't think he has the chops to beat Abbott. However, toppling a vulnerable Fled Cruz who's shooting himself in the feet regularly would be a more realistic, not to mention possible goal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    Just my uninformed opinion, but a gubernatorial run might be a bridge too far for O'Rourke as I don't think he has the chops to beat Abbott. However, toppling a vulnerable Fled Cruz who's shooting himself in the feet regularly would be a more realistic, not to mention possible goal.
    There are some weird dynamics here.

    Midterms favor the party out of the White House.

    Greg Abbott's approval rating is still reasonably good.

    O'Rourke said the March full reopening of the state was a "death warrant for Texans."

    https://www.msnbc.com/11th-hour/watc...m_npd_ms_tw_ma

    The numbers in Texas have been declining, so that's a prediction that didn't work.

    There may be a better political environment in 2024 (presidential election year with a potentially terrible Republican nominee), and Cruz is a weak candidate, especially since he's likely to run for President again and bomb even worse.

    The advantage with running for Governor is that it's not a national referendum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    You mean to tell me Manchin was actually ignorant of the fact Qpublicans want nothing to do with a 1/6 commission? Where the hell has he been? And what's he going to do, clutch his pearls like Susan Collins and write a strongly worded letter to Craven Kevin McCarthy insisting his GQP colleagues play nice?



    Just my uninformed opinion, but a gubernatorial run might be a bridge too far for O'Rourke as I don't think he has the chops to beat Abbott. However, toppling a vulnerable Fled Cruz who's shooting himself in the feet regularly would be a more realistic, not to mention possible goal.
    I think Beto really hurt his chances in Texas by literally saying he would come for their guns. While I would love to see massacre machines like AR-15s made illegal, I doubt swing voters in Texas would be onboard.

    Cruz can abandon the state during a natural disaster but I’m guessing he’d win a race in Texas against a “liberal who’s gonna take our guns!”.

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    Sanctuary cities for the unborn. Give me a break. A city in my area is going to vote tonight on making Abortion illegal in the city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    Sanctuary cities for the unborn. Give me a break. A city in my area is going to vote tonight on making Abortion illegal in the city.

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...an/5238858001/
    Everyone is so sure that the Supreme Court will overturn Roe vs Wade- and I don't think they're wrong.

    One of the judges (I can't remember which Trump-appointed *******) already ignored precedent in the recent ruling on, I think it was minors receiving life sentences? After stating in their confirmation hearing that they would of course absolutely follow precedent.

    At this point, I think the only way there is legalized abortion in the US is if actual legislation is passed. And that won't happen until the Democrats take back a solid, fillibuster-proof majority in the Senate, and probably increase their lead in the House.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    Sanctuary cities for the unborn. Give me a break. A city in my area is going to vote tonight on making Abortion illegal in the city.

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...an/5238858001/
    I would imagine the same smacked asses who dreamed up this nonsense also support the death penalty. The hypocrisy is both rank and glaring.
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    Has anyone heard about the crazy story of the Belarusian government literally hijacking an EU plane over its airspace solely so they could kidnap a dissident journalist on board?

    I mean the ridiculous brazen-ness of this evil action is mind boggling and alarming. It could potentially be the biggest air transit incident since 9/11 since what's to stop authoritarian leaders in India, China and other countries to weaponize its airspace and pull stunts like this in future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
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    Just my uninformed opinion, but a gubernatorial run might be a bridge too far for O'Rourke as I don't think he has the chops to beat Abbott. However, toppling a vulnerable Fled Cruz who's shooting himself in the feet regularly would be a more realistic, not to mention possible goal.
    It's also worth accounting for that the guy is probably realistic about his odds of having anything like a long term political career if he loses to Cruz a second time or loses that Governor's race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    There are some weird dynamics here.

    Midterms favor the party out of the White House.

    Greg Abbott's approval rating is still reasonably good.

    O'Rourke said the March full reopening of the state was a "death warrant for Texans."

    https://www.msnbc.com/11th-hour/watc...m_npd_ms_tw_ma

    The numbers in Texas have been declining, so that's a prediction that didn't work.

    There may be a better political environment in 2024 (presidential election year with a potentially terrible Republican nominee), and Cruz is a weak candidate, especially since he's likely to run for President again and bomb even worse.

    The advantage with running for Governor is that it's not a national referendum.
    Typically on midterms I'd say you were right. Given we're coming out of the era of Trump, working our way through a worldwide pandemic, and are still trying to figure out how to kickstart the economy while doing the pandemic thing I'd say this is anything but your typical era in US politics. My hope (not just because I'm a shameless lefty) is we're out of the Covid woods and the economy's on the upswing heading into those elections. If one or the other isn't true then we're probably due for another 2010 (where we had also been coming off of a rather unusual changing of the guard after the '08 financial disaster).

    On the run for Governor I'd say it not being national is probably to his disadvantage. A lot of his money and support comes from national attention. And I'd agree with the poster who said his stance on gun rights is probably more important than all of his other qualities combined (my words). Honestly never got the Beto thing, but as a lefty if he can take Cruz' job I'm all for it. If McConaughey is smart he should run as an Independent. I'm not a fan of celebrities running for office, but they are popularity contests and not (sadly) qualification and/or competency contests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnakinFlair View Post
    One of the judges (I can't remember which Trump-appointed *******) already ignored precedent in the recent ruling on, I think it was minors receiving life sentences? After stating in their confirmation hearing that they would of course absolutely follow precedent.
    Tell me it was Beer Keganaugh, the white entitlement posterboy.

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