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    I think the situation is largely peaceful now.

    It’s definitely very unfortunate that innocent people died and lost their businesses and property. No one wants to see that.

    That’s the whole essence of peaceful protests and why those in power should heed such protests. They shouldn’t wait until said protests are hijacked by undesirable elements before deciding to “listen”. Guys like Kapernick had been protesting for years before now but they were shutdown completely which also should never have happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shooshoomanjoe View Post
    WTF is going on with the police? Two cops confront a peaceful 75 year old protester and one shoves him. The man falls down and starts to bleed. One cop was going to help him but another cop prevents him then a swarm of cops just pass the man and ignore him. Here's the video. Tough to trust cops after all the violence they've inflicted on peaceful protesters these past few days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla2099 View Post
    What the heck are you talking about? This was a retired officer in his 70s that was murdered by looters because he was protecting his friend's Pawn Shop. David Dorn made an actual difference.
    I'm skeptical of a headline that identifies the killers when the body of the article says the police are still looking for suspects. His death is a tragedy, but let's wait a bit before pinning blame until we have an arrest at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sammy_hansen View Post
    I’d really like to hear from Republicans* on here, or conservatives, or even libertarians about what their solutions are to the problems of police brutality and systemic racism.

    *Except Mister Mets - you can’t even accept that the Republican Party engages in racist voter suppression, so I doubt you believe either of the above problems exist.
    Libertarian here and these are some of the solutions being discussed in our circles in regards to police brutality (the short version):

    End qualified immunity. There is a bill being proposed to congress right now and you can read more about it here: https://lpgeorgia.com/endqualifiedim...cQvtjEQvqDfBT4
    I have already contacted my representatives to support this proposal.

    Demilitarize the police.

    Make officers pay for their own abuse settlements.

    Prosecute police for civil rights violations.

    If you want more in-dept information, I strongly suggest you check out Spike Cohen on Facebook. He is the Libertarian VP nominee and has had several REALLY GOOD live videos on his facebook page discussing these issues and tackling them from a libertarian prospective.

    Also, since I am volunteering at a grassroots level for The Jo Jorgensen/Spike Cohen ticket check out the campaign page at Joj2020.com. Finally, Jo and Spike will be having an ask me anything facebook live event tonight from 5-6 EST on Jo Jorgensen's facebook. This would be a great opportunity to get answers straight from the candidates!
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    Quote Originally Posted by shooshoomanjoe View Post
    WTF is going on with the police? Two cops confront a peaceful 75 year old protester and one shoves him. The man falls down and starts to bleed. One cop was going to help him but another cop prevents him then a swarm of cops just pass the man and ignore him. Here's the video. Tough to trust cops after all the violence they've inflicted on peaceful protesters these past few days.
    stuff that has been going on forever

    ask any black or brown person and this is the REAL police

    badge wearing tyrants

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    Quote Originally Posted by shooshoomanjoe View Post
    WTF is going on with the police? Two cops confront a peaceful 75 year old protester and one shoves him. The man falls down and starts to bleed. One cop was going to help him but another cop prevents him then a swarm of cops just pass the man and ignore him. Here's the video. Tough to trust cops after all the violence they've inflicted on peaceful protesters these past few days.
    The man's family needs to sue the unholy shit out of the police department and the city. That was beyond reprehensible.
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    Has anyone ever thought about creating your own political video? I have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla2099 View Post
    I'm focused on the looting, businesses being robbed, properties being burned down, and people being murdered. Even a black police officer was killed and the media barely acknowledged him.

    I have to help my wife move to Philadelphia later this year so she can finish her fellowship. I'm nervous as hell for her safety. I'd feel far safer walking the streets with Police/Military than I would rioters
    It's why it's important to put a human face on things. It's easy to dismiss it as a couple of Xboxs being stolen if you're just reading about it on the internet. But try telling the family members of someone murdered by rioters that it's a sidebar. Sometimes generating empathy takes a bit of effort. It's why people protest in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aja_christopher View Post
    It's the usual right-wing response to any kind of uprising regarding civil rights because the civil rights of others are relatively unimportant to them.

    They deny people their civil rights through obstruction and voter suppression then act as if it's a surprise when people rebel against said inequality.

    If they devoted half as much energy to addressing the root of the problem -- authoritarian abuse and white supremacist attitudes -- then they would have already resolved the issue about two hundred years ago.
    Indeed, I very quickly lose my patience with these types of conversations. I admire the persistence and patience others like yourself have with all this

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    The man's family needs to sue the unholy shit out of the police department and the city. That was beyond reprehensible.
    That's the beauty of the cell phone. Its the great equalizer. More dangerous than any gun or knife, and in the hands of every person walking the street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Has anyone ever thought about creating your own political video? I have.
    My website...

    https://illuminamagazine.wordpress.com/

    ...drawings, books, screenplays and music are political enough for me -- you'd probably do well in that medium though and it's a lot more direct.

    Which might be exactly what's needed now -- I just can't be bothered to keep trying to point out the obvious at the expense of my art(s).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla2099 View Post
    What the heck are you talking about? This was a retired officer in his 70s that was murdered by looters because he was protecting his friend's Pawn Shop. David Dorn made an actual difference.
    Do you have evidence of that accusation?

    Ockham's razor says a black man outside a store being looted was not killed by black protestors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Has anyone ever thought about creating your own political video? I have.
    Has anything good ever come out of those political videos non-journalists record in their basements?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    That's the beauty of the cell phone. Its the great equalizer. More dangerous than any gun or knife, and in the hands of every person walking the street.
    Indeed. A generation ago before the technology became more widely available, Derek Chauvin LITERALLY would've gotten away with murder. But, because of video, his heinous crime ended up being seen the world over, sparking demands for justice, and, just as importantly, for BADLY needed police reform.
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