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    Quote Originally Posted by Xheight View Post
    it doesn't follow logically that ballot security is about enhancing the number of people who vote only that those who do vote are properly casting a vote.
    It's not about getting more people to vote, it's about getting the right people to vote. I get your subtext. The thing about right-wingers, they're not subtle. Again, we all know what this is about. That's why we don't take the pearl clutching about "integrity" seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSTowle View Post
    It's not about getting more people to vote, it's about getting the right people to vote. I get your subtext. The thing about right-wingers, they're not subtle. Again, we all know what this is about. That's why we don't take the pearl clutching about "integrity" seriously.
    When right-wingers like Xheight talk about 'ballot security', they mean the securing a GOP win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    When right-wingers like Xheight talk about 'ballot security', they mean the securing a GOP win.
    Spoken like someone who doesn't know the threat of extended voting hours, or giving water to those waiting in line!

    Why does no one think of the children?!

    ...who shouldn't wear masks, just to be as vulnerable to Covid as they are to bullets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    When right-wingers like Xheight talk about 'ballot security', they mean the securing a GOP win.
    The other problem is that too many people behind these policies have said the quiet part out loud.
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    sChoOLs ArE DiFfereNT

    BREAKING: Nearly one-third of all new #COVID19 cases reported today in Tennessee were among school-age children. There were 2,391 cases - the 2nd highest number reported - out of 7,666 new cases overall. 1/x
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    *groan*

    A Republican Texas lawmaker who attended the January 6 pro-Trump rally, which preceded the attack on the U.S. Capitol, has denied the day's events were an insurrection.

    Kyle Biedermann made the claim during a debate on Thursday about a a controversial GOP elections bill dubbed the SB1.

    Democrat Erin Zweiner tabled an amendment to prevent participants who encouraged or participated in a state of federal insurrection from becoming a voter assistant, The Dallas Morning News reports.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/te...?ocid=msedgntp

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    The GOP have been claiming voter fraud for decades yet they can't show any proof that it's going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shooshoomanjoe View Post
    The GOP have been claiming voter fraud for decades yet they can't show any proof that it's going on.
    Oh, there is proof.

    Kansas Republican Rep. Steve Watkins charged with voter fraud

    North Carolina GOP Operative Faces New Felony Charges That Allege Ballot Fraud
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    You are worried about 2 cases when we have every illegal immigrant in this country voting? Every underage person voting? Dead people voting? Mail carries throwing away ballots and laughing about it on Twitter? Biden's dog voted 17 times in the 2020 election! Every judge and lawyer in the country in on this because they keep throwing out law suits. The Ag of Georgia not finding non existing votes that our sitting president ordered him to or else?

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    So true babyblob, I guess I am just blinded by reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    So true babyblob, I guess I am just blinded by reality.
    The only way we can be sure that there's no voter fraud is if the GOP wins every election.

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    These Black Women Are Marching To Protect Voting Rights—And Our Democracy

    This Saturday marks the 58th anniversary of the March on Washington, where Martin Luther King Jr. delivered his celebrated “I Have a Dream” speech in front of the Lincoln Memorial. To honor the occasion, which became a catalyst for the Voting Rights Act of 1965, over 100 organizations will gather on the National Mall in Washington, D.C. and in cities across the country to show their support for voting rights and demonstrate against the most recent wave of voter suppression. This year, Republicans, claiming voter fraud, have restricted access to the polls following a historic election turnout in 2020, bolstered by Black and brown communities.

    During that first march on August 28, 1963, Black women were not allowed to be at the forefront. In fact, they were forced to stage an entirely separate demonstration from men on Independence Avenue, despite the fact that they played critical roles organizing the day and were mainstays of the larger movement. This included women like Ella Baker, who helped Martin Luther King Jr. form the civil rights organization Southern Christian Leadership Conference and is now known as the Mother of the Civil Rights Movement, and Dorothy Height, another core organizer as president of the National Council of Negro Women. Ultimately, only one woman, Daisy Bates, was allowed to speak that day—she gave the 142-word “Tribute to Negro Women Fighters for Freedom” speech.
    Really appreciated this article showcasing the important work and efforts of these women out there trying to fight the good fight on voting rights. Marching today 58 years after the March On Washington at a time when the GOP is working in earnest to make sure that black people and minorities in GOP controlled states know their place. Voting rights for minorities is once again under attack all these years later and here we are marching again. GOP tried to get millions of black votes tossed out January 6th. And they even supported insurrection to do it. After all that carnage and craziness the GOP in Congress STILL sat there and tried to toss out black peoples votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    The only way we can be sure that there's no voter fraud is if the GOP wins every election.
    Recall how the GOP only calls into question the integrity when Democrats win but never when they win.

    Meanwhile the vast majority of confirmed cases of voter fraud have been done by those trying to elect Republicans.

    Its always incredible how one side demands everyone plays by the rules but never does on their end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    Statements like this just amaze me

    How do people think that voting occurs? That people just turn in a slip on who they voted for, and absolutely nothing else?

    States have always had voter rolls. They've always verified votes and addresses. And to commit voter fraud on a scale to tip any election, you'd need fake names and addresses in the thousands. And then you'd need at least a few hundred people to impersonate those thousands, over and over again.

    And in this conspiracy of hundreds, you'd need none of them to be recognized or caught.

    But because people like yourself don't understand basic logistics, we get ignorant posts like this.
    Imagine working for the state government where your job is to verify the existence of each legal voter when you ask if they want to register and every few years checking in if they moved or changed names, or maintaining whatever electoral system your state uses to count ballots, and all the yahoos that call every day with baseless claims but you're forced to humor them.

    It's soul draining & makes you question if people actually want to learn civics or just a version of politics that makes their lives have meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    You are worried about 2 cases when we have every illegal immigrant in this country voting? Every underage person voting? Dead people voting? Mail carries throwing away ballots and laughing about it on Twitter? Biden's dog voted 17 times in the 2020 election! Every judge and lawyer in the country in on this because they keep throwing out law suits. The Ag of Georgia not finding non existing votes that our sitting president ordered him to or else?

    I am shocked at how blind to the real threats this board is
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