All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[Zauriel]

Complaining about the Democrats "not respecting people's right to vote" is akin to trying to squash an ant in a house that's on fire.

Then why did the Democrats entice third party voters in swing states to trade their votes for Hillary Clinton?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...n-vote-trading

[Tendrin]

https://twitter.com/iarnsdorf/status...05737728884738

This is an important thread.

[4saken1]

Stop blaming third party voters.

And start blaming the politicians for not keeping their promises on the platform on which they were elected to.

Not every Democrat in Congress was elected on the same platform, though. Some in purple, or even red states had to make campaign promises which were to the right of the national Democratic platform in order to get a majority of the votes in their state. Thus, the majority that Democrats now hold isn't really a majority on every issue.

You're right, though, let's not blame third Party voters. Instead, let's play true or false:

True or false - If more people in certain states had voted Democrat instead of Green, the Supreme Court would have decided differently on Citizens Unites.
True or false - If more people in certain states had voted Democrat instead of Green, the Supreme Court wouldn't have gutted the Voting Rights Act.

Can't you see how many people voting third Party has actually contributed to some of the problems you want to fix?

[Panfoot]

Then why did the Democrats entice third party voters in swing states to trade their votes for Hillary Clinton?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...n-vote-trading

So a businessman(I'm not seeing that this Amit Kumar, who made the app in question, ever held elected office) engaging in some duplicitous voting tactics, is on par with the Republicans, who's last president attempted a coup after losing and have introduced tons of voting restriction bills target at making it much harder for minorities to vote?

[Tendrin]

So a businessman(I'm not seeing that this Amit Kumar, who made the app in question, ever held elected office) engaging in some duplicitous voting tactics, is on par with the Republicans, who's last president attempted a coup after losing and have introduced tons of voting restriction bills target at making it much harder for minorities to vote?

why let reality get in the way of feeling oppressed by the DNC?

[Panfoot]

why let reality get in the way of feeling oppressed by the DNC?

The funny part is this is really reminding me about some guy who ran a campaign on every politician being corrupt and that he would "drain the swamp"....wonder how that turned out?

[Zauriel]

Do you believe these Democrats are to the right of where the party was during another time (IE- the first two years of the Obama administration)?
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I wish I could believe it but in reality, Obama administration was kissing up to their corporate donors.

Republican Party is like an overt narcissist. They're clear about being for themselves.
Democratic Party is a covert narcissist. They pretend to care about you until they've got your commitment/vote. Once they've won they gaslight you and pretend they never promised you anything.

[Gray Lensman]

Everyone pretty much wants to see the GOP go. Is the answer to that just having a one party Dems running the whole show? I dont like that. I have no issue with a 3rd party. If people dont like them fine but no one should say that the people have their choice then say

"Well no 3rd parties though. Have your choice but only with these two people and who cares if neither meets your goals."

Some 3rd parties are crackpots. Some main stream are crack pots. But under our system if a person meets the legal requirements to be put on a presidential ballot they should not be denied because it would cost your party votes. That smacks of voter restriction and that is what we are bitching about the GOP for doing.

If the Republican party was to cease to exist tomorrow, the Democrats would split in two by the next Presidential election. They are held together by the Winner Take All system in the Electoral College, and by the fact that the Republicans seem opposed to their very existence (many for reasons not tied to politics).

[Zauriel]

Can't you see how many people voting third Party has actually contributed to some of the problems you want to fix?

So the third parties should be taken off the ballot making the voters choose one between only two parties? Sure, That may fix the problem but is it really what you call a democracy?

[thwhtGuardian]

I wish I could believe it but in reality, Obama administration was kissing up to their corporate donors.

Republican Party is like an overt narcissist. They're clear about being for themselves.
Democratic Party is a covert narcissist. They pretend to care about you until they've got your commitment/vote. Once they've won they gaslight you and pretend they never promised you anything.

...except the Democratic party doesn't want to turn back the clock on LGBTQ, womens and civil rights.

This isn't a situation where both sides are the same.

[Panfoot]

So the third parties should be taken off the ballot making the voters choose one between only two parties? Sure, That may fix the problem but is it really what you call a democracy?

Nobody is saying third parties shouldn't be allowed. Saying you'll never vote for a Democrat again to protect democracy while the Republicans are actively attempting to destroy democracy seems wildly counterproductive...

[Mister Mets]

I wish I could believe it but in reality, Obama administration was kissing up to their corporate donors.

Republican Party is like an overt narcissist. They're clear about being for themselves.
Democratic Party is a covert narcissist. They pretend to care about you until they've got your commitment/vote. Once they've won they gaslight you and pretend they never promised you anything.

At one point did America have a major political party you prefer to current Democrats?

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

Republicans are so dumb sometimes. In the middle of an absolute disaster week for Biden’s approval they finally decide to flex their muscle on being anti abortion and rally the Democrats up for midterms over something that is a virtual lock to be overturned once challenged.

[Mister Mets]

There are some interesting implications to the Texas legislation. It is a way to get all sorts of policy outcomes. For example, California can set bounties on reporting people who are unvaccinated, or cops who fail to turn on body cams or whatever.

[Zauriel]

At one point did America have a major political party you prefer to current Democrats?

What major political party? There are only two major political parties in America