All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[Tendrin]

Yeah, that is one of the reasons I noticed the bit about Stan Lee. XD

[Xheight]

Well the good economic numbers came out in the days after VA while inflation was a concern leading up to it, as was issues of the "Great Resignation".

Even then Phil Murphy won the NJ Governor race despite high GOP turnout and Youngkin won VA with a small margin. A better campaign by McAuliffe similar to Murphy's would have won him VA.

Inflation is more side-effect of stimulating the economy.

You are right in that crediting a good economy to the government is a mug's game. Like for instance the 2008 Financial Crisis wasn't completely Dubya Bush's fault since some of the regulation policies that led to it were instituted when Clinton was in charge. On the other hand, the Financial Crisis happening just months before the elction certainly played a part in Obama getting elected because McCain couldn't tout a strong economy as something to defend and Obama's calls for change simply made way more sense.

Inflation is in part an effect but there is a definite policy side to it through the Fed as we have seen and heard from Yellin in the past year opine about Inflation perhaps being a good thing to stoked by rates. To which this marginality that you point to only suggest to me that of the bell curve with moderates in the middle that is where right track wrong track is the most telling because all the professional politician is interested in is nudging it in their favor for the win.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...ewsroom-video/
On how at-home learning during the pandemic was their big issue: “Our kids are in crisis. The learning loss is real. … Mandates and CRT did not influence my decision. At all.”
It is important to remember that that this demographic didn't flip, it shifted as burbs still are and will continue to be blue and dominated by mommy ideologically.

On the other hand in 2012, the Economy hadn't recovered and the policies Obama put to rescue it wouldn't take effect later. And Hillary lost depite have a strong economy (stronger than Bill Clinton's) to defend.

So a good economy is a significant factor but not a winning factor by itself.

We didn't see it in fact. The 2020 Election was decisively won by Biden, electorally and popularly. It wasn't a close election in numerical terms.

So it's not "half" as in both sides equally saw Trump as good for the economy. That's just not true at all.

Well we could go down the road on the dubious election system and the conclusions to be drawn from turn out but that was not what I was referring to in that the reporting of the election/covid/economy was partisan in that shutting down the economy was alternately blamed fatalistically by Republicans and as a matter of policy by Democrats. The argument here is mostly about the dominant forces among the politicized members of the public, not a way to think about everyone on one side or the other much more the turnout question which has been altered by election law changes.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

What the absolute f is this nonsense?!

Well now, THAT sure was stupid as hell.

[Xheight]

But we're not a pure free market Capitalist society. We're a Capitalist society where the upper 1% of capitalists pay off the government to stack the deck in their favor. And punching down is holding one's own? So Dave Chapelle is making fun of transgender people to keep them from making fun of him? I'm not sure how that works.

Of course we don't live in an absolute Capitalist society but isn't that where politics comes in between those that want to expand its rationales and those that seek to restrain it, contain it and harness it for other purposes?
It made me laugh the other day when Biden made a point of calling himself a Capitalist in that he does not subscribe to the state control of the means of production like some ardent Marxists aspire toward but social democrats have long been set on using Capitalist's surplus value to social goals and are known as Socialists like Bernie and DSA.

Your assumption seems to be the same as classic Marxism, the main source of this polarity, and therefore of class antagonism and conflict, is private ownership of the means of production or power that implies opposition of interests, economic exploitation, and political domination between two major classes. Other classes are of lesser importance in this view, and they are likely to wane in a conciseness of oppression and that all important social inequalities and cleavages gradually coalesce with major class divisions. however there is an alternate ideology and that is all I am saying accounts our multivalent class and race struggles.

Social organization and bureaucratization inevitably give rise to elites – a fact stressed by Gaetano Mosca and Robert Michels in his famous ‘iron law of oligarchy’. These elites are conscious, cohesive, and capable of defending their own interests. While the elite–mass gap is constant, the nature of elites changes with the processes of elite circulation that accompanies – and affects – social change. The central conflict in all societies is between established elites and the challengers. Elites replace each other in the cycles of peaceful takeovers and revolutionary coups; they typically alternate between tough and violent ‘lions’ and cunning ‘foxes’.

- Professor Jan PAKULSKI is Dean of Arts and Professor of Sociology

[worstblogever]

Well, if you can bear the sight and sound of Ted Cruz, here's the somehow-still-a-US Senator calling for Texas to secede from the Union, because he wasn't enough of a seditious ***hole already.

[worstblogever]

And, a New York Times analysis of Covid-19 data shows the impact of conservative anti-vaxx propaganda...

U.S. Counties that voted for Trump have a case rate three times that of ones that voted on Biden based on population... and the death rate per capita is EIGHT times for Trump voters compared to that of Biden voters.

Their rhetoric is killing their own.

[CaptainEurope]

every gender, and race gets beat. Why do that for only one?

I am so tired of that fallacy.

"Straight white guys get beaten, too."

"Vaccinated people catch covid, too."

"Non-smokers get lung cancer, too."

You may just be a Kid Devil, but I still expect better from you.

[CaptainEurope]

It was almost exactly one year ago that the markets realized that Trump was over as president.

[Catlady in training]

Making jokes at the expense of a marginalized group, especially a group that’s been targets of violence like transpeople is disgusting. Here in Philly, there have been several such attacks, including three murders over the last couple of years. Sure, I get edgy, even shocking humor, hell, I grew up with Richard Pryor, but when comics take advantage of transpeople for the sake of cheap laughs, that’s a low blow in my book and something that shouldn’t be tolerated.

Exactly. And the idea that people who are offended by someone joking at their expense when they already face so much hatred are just some oversensitive snowflakes that cannot take a joke is horrible. People are actually able to laugh at themselves, but there is a difference in whether it comes from within the community from a place of understanding, or from outside when the point is to other and alienate them, which only emboldens those who want to actively do them harm.

[AnakinFlair]

Jan. 6 committee subpoenas top Trump allies involved with scheme to overturn election

Who will show? Who won't? Who will hide behind the 5th Amendment? Who will try to claim Executive Privledge? TUNE INTO NITRO TO FIND OUT!

[Kirby101]

Jan. 6 committee subpoenas top Trump allies involved with scheme to overturn election

Who will show? Who won't? Who will hide behind the 5th Amendment? Who will try to claim Executive Privledge? TUNE INTO NITRO TO FIND OUT!

As long as Garland refuses to enforce contempt charges, they will all ignore it.

[The Cool Thatguy]

And, a New York Times analysis of Covid-19 data shows the impact of conservative anti-vaxx propaganda...

U.S. Counties that voted for Trump have a case rate three times that of ones that voted on Biden based on population... and the death rate per capita is EIGHT times for Trump voters compared to that of Biden voters.

Their rhetoric is killing their own.

So its a problem that solves itself

[babyblob]

Jan. 6 committee subpoenas top Trump allies involved with scheme to overturn election

Who will show? Who won't? Who will hide behind the 5th Amendment? Who will try to claim Executive Privledge? TUNE INTO NITRO TO FIND OUT!

The GOP = We want the truth to come out (Votes to Block a commission)

We have proof and a paper trail that Antifa and BLM did this With ion the DOJ (Sues to block the release of documents)

We have nothing to hide (ignores subpoenas and refuse to answer any questions)

[Xheight]

As long as Garland refuses to enforce contempt charges, they will all ignore it.

Because there is nothing better than a Justice Dept. supporting the usurping the function the Justice Dept. If there was any crime committed to begin with should that not be the Justice Dept. leading that? Oh wait they have been.

A well-known concept derived from the text and structure of the Constitution is the doctrine of what is commonly called separation of powers. The Framers' experience with the British monarchy informed their belief that the concentration of distinct governmental powers in a single entity would subject the nation's people to arbitrary and oppressive government action.

[Xheight]

The GOP = We want the truth to come out (Votes to Block a commission)

We have proof and a paper trail that Antifa and BLM did this With ion the DOJ (Sues to block the release of documents)

We have nothing to hide (ignores subpoenas and refuse to answer any questions)

Are you just making this stuff up Blob or is there something supporting these supposed contradictions.

meanwhile https://www.revolver.news/2021/09/ne...lvement-jan-6/

Klobuchar asks the FBI director if he wishes he had infiltrated the militia organizations allegedly involved in 1/6 — assuming from the outset that there was in fact no infiltration, thereby providing the FBI director an easy way to avoid addressing the question one way or another.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_court did somebody say arbitrary and oppressive government action?